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Perhaps the word 'slave' is indeed too harsh but the content is a tad overboard. <br /><br />I'll try to shorten my comment since this is an outdated issue, plus I need to finish up my article :) But I feel accustomed to leaving my opinion behind. Just a few highlights:<br /><br />(1) 13 years is long<br />(2) If you can't fulfill your obligations due to personal reasons, you are liable for another round of 13 years<br />(3) Again, 13 years is long .. let alone double the length<br />(4) To fulfill ALL activities assigned by the Company (min/max per mth, yr ??)<br />(5) To release at least 2 albums in a year, plus the promo acts (don't think Taylor Swift even does that)<br />(6) The words "work diligently" are all over the paper - but no comment, part of the culture I suppose.<br />(7) Compilation albums - all profits go to the company (no loyalty fee to the artist, not even a dime)<br />(8) No mention of leave entitlement / break period / insurance / notice period (perhaps there is, just not translated?)<br />(9) No mention of compensation - when it happens the other way round - if the company fails to comply.<br />(10) One line says: the artist can refuse the company's request if it is deemed out of context (not the artist's responsibility) - voila! case closed.<br />(11) I have no further comment about the profit/loss division and the compensation. Let the accountants do that :)<br /><br /><br />Having been in the entertainment industry myself, I know the mindset - between those who decide to rebel and leave, and those who decide to stay and carry on. The reasons from both sides are somewhat simple. So simple that it is sometimes unthinkable and inexplicable. We'll just leave it at that. Let both groups carry on with their success. I see both groups are doing well. Outsiders (fans/supporters/antis/manipulative business people/malicious peers) shouldn't mediate. <br /><br />Live our lives and do what we do best. Easier said than done, isn't it. Just like all this dispute was/is about. Anyway, dang it, I've written a long one .. gotta get back to my article. See you around, peeps!<br /><br />XHye0905https://www.blogger.com/profile/11941464063360157999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3913899626841067494.post-87273778924184562332014-06-01T00:36:44.449-07:002014-06-01T00:36:44.449-07:00i know this is old as hell but i thought id commen...i know this is old as hell but i thought id comment<br /><br />50 million won is about 50thousand dollars... divided by 5 means each member gets 10000 dollars an album back when they were a five member group... with a maximum payout of 20000 dollars per member and maximum bonus of 100% (before the contract changes). so per album each member stood to make a maximum of 40000 dollars... one album per year means they potentially each made the money of a school teacher from album sales. even mirotic didnt sell 1mill copies before the next album was released so the payout was much less.<br /><br />5% on album sales means each got 1% of total sales... mirotic so far has sold 900thousand copies assuming 12dollars an album, or 12 cents for tvxq (divided by 5 means 2,4 cents per member for each sale) each member made $21,000 for that album... added to the $10,000 they get becausd sales exceeded 500thousand but didnt reach 1mill by the time the next album dropped that means at their peak dbsk was making $31,000 - $41,000 for the year after mirotic hit and before secret code released.<br /><br />this is miniscule.<br /><br />now digital sales are 10% of net profits... but sm never releases digital sales revenue but includes them in total sales. btw 10% of net profits for a digital album is much less than pure sales share because it factors in marketing and agency costs as well... those two words mean a lot.<br /><br />the rest of the numbers are percentages of net profits, which is a significant sum before you calculate travel costs, bodyguards, stylists, makeup, promotion, and others. those words net profit mean alot. that means if they are paid 75000 dollars to appear on a show, after travel costs and marketing costs and all other costs are deducted they get 70% of whats left... and that number is then divided by 5.<br /><br />this contract is incredibly unfair. sm gets away with it bexause they sign this kids on when theyre still young and dont think to or cant afford a lawyer to read over the contract.OJIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12473433147672902437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3913899626841067494.post-77334692581680996072013-01-28T21:15:20.948-08:002013-01-28T21:15:20.948-08:00I was very pleased to find this sitepromotional st...I was very pleased to find this site<a href="http://eventprostrategies.com/services/promotional-event-staffing" rel="nofollow">promotional staff</a>eventagency11https://www.blogger.com/profile/18053530333706617128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3913899626841067494.post-1853846912664981962012-07-09T08:05:54.473-07:002012-07-09T08:05:54.473-07:00i knw this is way late but the court ruled that th...i knw this is way late but the court ruled that the cosmetic business has nothin to do with the contract...nw lets see...the conclusion from above is this:<br />If you look at the contract, it can be seen that SM holds almost no obligations. All there is for the agency to do is to take care of the group’s popularity and tell them of their activities. On the other hand, TVXQ must follow the orders of the manager SM gives them, and cannot personally make any promises or contracts regarding activities.They cannot talk about the internal affairs of SM. If a show or performance has a setback for no special reason, TVXQ must compensate. They must make two full albums every year and must release an album six months before the termination of their contract and perform all activities diligently. TVXQ must get permission from SM to give any of their compositions or arrangements to a third party. But SM is allowed to give any SM singer TVXQ’s compositions without the consent of TVXQ.<br /> <br />Although the income division aspect has improved, they do not receive any money until at least 50K copies are sold. If they sell 50K~100K, the group receives 2% of sales, sell 100K~200K and receive 3%, sell over 200K and they receive 5% of total sales. The group must then split this income. If the appearance on a show is not regular, SM receives all the money for publicity. If the contract is terminated for any reason, TVXQ must pay compensation worth three times the investment money and twice the amount of their forecast income as well. This also applies when both sides have agreed to the termination or when SM is the cause of the termination.<br />Yeah i would call this slave contract n sue coz sweeties money isnt everythin u need to live too...evry artist of sm looks hagard n are always jetsettin from one location to other...dnt wry i love homin as much as the next person but i love JYJ too n knw dat if i ws dem i wud have sued too!!Silverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18041530523461767393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3913899626841067494.post-76316205911479083612011-04-19T21:19:24.299-07:002011-04-19T21:19:24.299-07:00@ cutebabyboo
You're welcome. The respect towa...@ cutebabyboo<br />You're welcome. The respect towards HoMin is one big reason I started this blog. :)Precioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17875290064712800098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3913899626841067494.post-29514559186480108302011-04-19T20:06:57.757-07:002011-04-19T20:06:57.757-07:00I am a new fan and Precious. thanks a bunchhhhhhhh...I am a new fan and Precious. thanks a bunchhhhhhhhhhhhh for truthfully translating everything.<br />I feel sooooooo sad for HoMin and even sadder to JYJ [4 watever they've done], either side wins will make the other suffers for the rest of their life. But I hope the truth wins and HoMin get more respect from me, again, thanks to you ^^.<br />Hope you will always keep us up with right info :)cutebabyboohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01012215078731532664noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3913899626841067494.post-92232900479239254792011-02-09T18:03:54.375-08:002011-02-09T18:03:54.375-08:00@ Nikki
Yes, but that doesn't excuse breaking...@ Nikki<br /><br />Yes, but that doesn't excuse breaking a contract they signed. Are you telling me it's ok to break a contract because they changed their mind?<br />Besides, the contract was amended 5 times already, latest being February 2009. They filed the lawsuit 6 months after the amendment. There are many other things I haven't posted, so please be patient.<br /><br />The judge never ruled the contract unfair. He opined that it "may" be unfair, but there was never a ruling. That is another lie spread by anti-SM people. If the contract was already ruled unfair, then what is the lawsuit that's going on right now? Think about it. All these will be posted in the future.Precioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17875290064712800098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3913899626841067494.post-74885335319283653132011-02-09T17:39:34.025-08:002011-02-09T17:39:34.025-08:00@Precious
Would you say that you had less of an o...@Precious<br /><br />Would you say that you had less of an opinion when you were say 17 than you do now? So would it be reasonable to say that at the point of them signing the contract, they would all be too happy to not have to make any decision at all? While today, they have more opinion and would like to be part of the creative process and decision making process?<br /><br />Also, I vaguely remember the judge ruled that the contract was indeed a "slave" contract and ruled in the favour of JYJ at the preliminary hearing. So while your nitpicking of the contract makes it look decent, how is that that the judge ruled otherwise? I'm genuinely curious to know.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3913899626841067494.post-22279344381247393732011-02-09T08:42:38.102-08:002011-02-09T08:42:38.102-08:00@ Nikki
Also, notice that you are nitpicking the c...@ Nikki<br />Also, notice that you are nitpicking the contract, but the lawsuit was filed because of the contract being a "slave" contract, and it is far from that. That was my point.Precioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17875290064712800098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3913899626841067494.post-18098214323872459982011-02-09T08:41:43.240-08:002011-02-09T08:41:43.240-08:00@ Nikki
It wasn't subtle. Artist do not have m...@ Nikki<br />It wasn't subtle. Artist do not have much say in the decision. That's how it usually is when you get a job. Don't be confused Korean idol's contract who gets "hired" by the entertainment company with that of typical "Western" artists who do everything on their own before signing a record contract. They are structured differently, and their career path is different too. CJS chose the path of typical Korean idols and signed the contract.Precioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17875290064712800098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3913899626841067494.post-54143893212129064232011-02-09T08:13:12.880-08:002011-02-09T08:13:12.880-08:00It doesn't look too bad, but did you notice ho...It doesn't look too bad, but did you notice how it was subtly saying that the artist has got no say in anything at all?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3913899626841067494.post-42406680216601447612011-01-31T01:54:24.956-08:002011-01-31T01:54:24.956-08:00Actually I honestly think JYJ will win the case,
...Actually I honestly think JYJ will win the case, <br />But I honestly can't imagine that happening,<br />Coz I can already imagine what chaos there will be,<br />but honestly I think there'll be chaos whichever side wins....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3913899626841067494.post-1244722062407664532011-01-21T02:21:55.953-08:002011-01-21T02:21:55.953-08:00@ Precious
wow... those are a long ranting that I...@ Precious<br /><br />wow... those are a long ranting that I didn't bother fully reading after her first post XD... it does seem frustrated doesn't it? why do I have the feeling that if when JYJ win the lawsuit, she will come back here and said "See, I told you so"?Hotaruhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15915530467620369584noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3913899626841067494.post-25667121608365725482011-01-20T07:33:03.032-08:002011-01-20T07:33:03.032-08:00@ Jennifer Zhang
No one asked you to come here. A...@ Jennifer Zhang<br /><br />No one asked you to come here. Again, you are just repeating what those JYJ sites are preaching. Everything you've listed was explained in my post, and some of them are flat out lies.<br /><br /><a href="http://truetvxq.blogspot.com/2010/12/false-information-about-contract.html" rel="nofollow">http://truetvxq.blogspot.com/2010/12/false-information-about-contract.html</a><br /><br />Again, you didn't even read my posts. If you ever see this, you can come back and read them. :)<br /><br />I even said SM may lose the case, so I'm going to be right either way. Read my posts. :)<br /><br />Confidentiality agreement is just that, not revealing internal affairs. You are so focused on discrediting what SM is doing, you don't even realize the absurdity on your comments.Precioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17875290064712800098noreply@blogger.com