tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3913899626841067494.post957647990437249811..comments2024-03-18T00:39:00.120-07:00Comments on The truth about TVXQ: Analyzing the ContractPrecioushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17875290064712800098noreply@blogger.comBlogger41125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3913899626841067494.post-26288879453626802332011-07-04T11:50:06.009-07:002011-07-04T11:50:06.009-07:00This is so tiring! I mean reading your post then a...This is so tiring! I mean reading your post then all the comments. So that means it's more tiring for you since you own this blog. So I guess you deserve a compliment. Seriously, thanks for making the effort to make this blog. Even though it's tiring to read, I still gain a lot of knowledge. It's better to know something than know nothing at all.<br /><br />For me the "breach of contract" part seems alright because it's really what you have to face for not completing the contract. It's just like an assurance for the company that you will fulfill your promise.<br /><br />As for the very busy schedule, well I think it's just normal for a very famous artist like TVXQ. And it's not like the company only benefits from it. Aren't the fans too? TVXQ are doing those performance and guestings for the sake of their fans, tomake them happy. Just my opinion :Dyunho2https://www.blogger.com/profile/12108097733297955258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3913899626841067494.post-8691758113337784682011-04-10T10:16:24.769-07:002011-04-10T10:16:24.769-07:00@ girlpower
Yup. There's really nothing unusua...@ girlpower<br />Yup. There's really nothing unusual about the contract, and definitely not enough to file a lawsuit against the company who made TVXQ together. It's really just an excuse to get out of the company after all these years. Other artist have briefly mentioned about the "slave" contract issue, notably Big Bang who expressed their dislike towards using the word "slave contract". We all know what other SM artists think about that issue.Precioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17875290064712800098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3913899626841067494.post-29361284559172692462011-04-10T08:40:39.161-07:002011-04-10T08:40:39.161-07:00on my last sentence "they" = other arist...on my last sentence "they" = other arists<br /><br />*sucks at grammar*<br /><br />oh and, thank you again ^^girlpowerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15163847017207706204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3913899626841067494.post-58277372840251001642011-04-10T08:38:01.816-07:002011-04-10T08:38:01.816-07:00I really don't find anything unusual with the ...I really don't find anything unusual with the contract. The breach of contract does seem a bit excessive but we have to consider that this is an exclusive contract and that they are sort of like an intellectual propety. They have been honed from no ones to who they are now through extensive trainings, industry exposure, etc. Besides if it follows the standard then it is the norm in their industry. <br /><br />You are right when you said that whether it is ethical or not, it is still the industry norm. <br /><br />There's a way out of this and I don't think it's rocket science as well: find another company that is willing to pay for it on your behalf. That happens alot in the professional world. TVXQ is TVXQ. And each member is very marketable. I don't think it's hard for them to find a company who would be more than willing to have them in their backyard. Meh.<br /><br />You know, I can't help but wonder what were the reaction of other artists - outside of SME - to this lawsuit. Especially since their contract was made public and they know what happens behind the scenes, unlike the fans who make a mountain out of a molehill.girlpowerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15163847017207706204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3913899626841067494.post-73815669614150962902011-02-10T10:38:05.216-08:002011-02-10T10:38:05.216-08:00@Sakura
can you ask a jobless artist? I think thei...@Sakura<br />can you ask a jobless artist? I think their dream is have a schedulle like TVXQ.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3913899626841067494.post-1190826927751039182011-01-10T11:14:57.793-08:002011-01-10T11:14:57.793-08:00@ Sakura
This is just a suggestion, but since you...@ Sakura<br /><br />This is just a suggestion, but since you are so concerned about an "open" blog spreading opinions that you don't agree with, why don't you start your own blog and just put up a link to my blog? That way, you will reach far more people, and make your points more effectively. You can title it "The truth about the truth about TVXQ blog" and I won't bother with your posts. You've already written enough comments to start your own blog. :)Precioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17875290064712800098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3913899626841067494.post-57025961600789479502011-01-10T10:42:36.585-08:002011-01-10T10:42:36.585-08:00@ Sakura
Like I said, I know TVXQ is a hard worki...@ Sakura<br /><br />Like I said, I know TVXQ is a hard working group. Those schedules may seem brutal, but I cannot possibly know if those schedules were forced onto them or not, and neither do you. CJS filed a lawsuit against SM, so whether it was true or not, they'd say they're treated badly, and I have to take their statement with a grain of salt, and you will see why I would not trust them 100% in the future.<br /><br />I don't think I ever said those schedules were easy. Again, you are reading more than what I wrote. I basically agreed those schedules were tough, but you're wasting your time trying to prove the schedules were hard which I basically agreed.<br /><br />I deleted one of your comment because you commented the same thing on another post. Please do not duplicate what you wrote.Precioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17875290064712800098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3913899626841067494.post-66396376365722042572011-01-10T10:23:41.501-08:002011-01-10T10:23:41.501-08:00@ Sakura: what i means by this is the OP blog is t...@ Sakura: what i means by this is the OP blog is that it's his blog n of cos his opinion on the story. He can't write it in ur or mine opinion so even if it's an open blog it's pretty much represent what he think. And yes ppl may agree or disagree but what's the point of proving someone wrong? honestly, even if there're he's arguing with u and prove more evidence, does that means u'll have to agree? No. And so does he. <br />This case (lawsuit)is a civil case which means both party nead to prove them right. Even if the court rules toward one doesn't mean it's absolutely right because the court are ppl too. It's not a murder case where if u've got evidence about the assassin he's going to jail. Now answer me, even if the court rule in favor of SM, do u immediately change ur mind n told JYJ that they were wrong??? No u won't, JYJ won't either. It's not about right or wrong but about differences ppl take things different. <br />This blog said the true about DBSK doesn't mean its conclusion about the lawsuit is the fact that u have to agree, because it's one person POV and for god sake, who know the true???? What i interpret the true of this blog is the information/translation part which is more accurate than the other source. Now that's what close to the true. <br />Don't take every word literallyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3913899626841067494.post-37779164052683221492011-01-10T09:06:04.923-08:002011-01-10T09:06:04.923-08:00@ Sakura
You should really stop commenting too mu...@ Sakura<br /><br />You should really stop commenting too much because Your comments are marked as spams by the blog system, and I cannot turn it off. Now you're making me go into the folder and recover them giving me extra work, and I'm getting tired of it.Precioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17875290064712800098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3913899626841067494.post-36929704441939256122011-01-10T08:49:04.939-08:002011-01-10T08:49:04.939-08:00“BTW, you have listed the schedules for one whole ...“BTW, you have listed the schedules for one whole month, and it looks just like the schedule of other entertainers in Asia. There are 30 items listed, so that means they had average of one activity per day. Almost half of the activities are filled with flying back and forth between Japan & Korea. Also note that it's the December schedule, where it's the busiest time of the year for the entertainers.”<br /><br />OMG, I can’t believe I have to explain why the schedule was horrible, word for a word. Just the basic outline should have been enough. <br /><br />First of all, all those projects listed above are only things that the fans observed because this schedule is taken together by fans after the lawsuit happened. This has been spread widely among those Cassies that were there when the everything went south so you should have known this fact. There are meetings in between and other stuff not mentioned on this list, because the fan who took it together couldn’t have had followed them all day writing down what they did when they didn’t appear publicly. <br /><br />Secondly, each performance has to prepared. You don’t get a dance totally in sync and you don’t remember lyrics, the notes and exactly how you should emote/express each part just because you could do it a few weeks ago. No, you need to rehearse everyday to not loose touch. That is how every performance is, singing, instruments or something else. Let me tell you something about me. I play on flute and have been doing it for a long time. I and every other musician that I have met can attest to the fact that if you don’t rehearse ONE day, your skill goes down. Let’s assume that it is not so with dancing (but I doubt it), you still have the singing left. You might say that they are idols and when they perform they have the have music playing in the background most of the time but even then they have not one song that they were promoting but more! They have more factors to stress and and think about but those who just play music. But even with background music, you must practice frequently.<br /><br />Thirdly, the traveling around is one of the mentally hard things to do on the list (if you do it frequently). The somebody that I mentioned in my last point travels to another countries at least once every one or two month. To that person they are not so tiring physically but mentally because of the stress that traveling between countries brings. For an idol group like TVXQ they also need to think about their appearance when traveling and looking good when walking in and out of airport. Sounds simple but tiring when you have tons of fans screaming, waiting for you after a travel and flashing cameras at you.<br /><br />Fourth point. There is a saying that goes somewhere along this way that for each minute behind a movie there is an hour worth of work. TV shows, radios, and performances are not the same thing as a movie but still this sentence above still fits relatively, in the way that there is a lot of work behind what we see. <br /><br />At last about the business of the December schedule (30 items) is true but not here because in October the same year, the schedule that the fans know about shows 52 items, the only reason I decided not to post that is because this was during Mirotic comeback (and I chickened out writing it all)Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04603005165171871792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3913899626841067494.post-9166264027353808402011-01-10T08:48:06.161-08:002011-01-10T08:48:06.161-08:00@Kendralove
Hi there, thanks for taking the time ...@Kendralove<br />Hi there, thanks for taking the time to read over my comment. I’m not sure what you are trying to tell me? That it is alright to have an opinion? Because my comment is another opinion. Or that this is OP’s own blog and he spent time translating so I should leave agreeing comments or non?<br /><br />If so, I disagree precisely because this is an open blog on the internet. Logically, by putting it on the internet for the world to see, the author’s goal would be to inform other of of his viewpoint and inform others what he or she (IDK you gender, sorry) thinks to be wrong. An open blog and a closed blog are something different. By making it open, the author is allowing others to read the posts and agree to the points that he/she is making … and getting ready to have some people to oppose them. The same is true with every article that newspapers put out. There will be people who agree and people who won’t agree.<br /><br />If the OP had written in his closed blog or diary nobody would have opposed him. But is this a diary? <br /><br />Don’t worry about the translations itself. All the contract has been translated before so what he has translated seems not wrong. But he hasn’t translated everything of the contract and some parts of that are very vital to this lawsuit.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04603005165171871792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3913899626841067494.post-3957023204842709992011-01-10T08:44:50.078-08:002011-01-10T08:44:50.078-08:00@OP
We really are rehashing the same words again a...@OP<br />We really are rehashing the same words again and again isn’t it. This time I am just going to copy what I said in the FTC post<br /><br /> “Nowhere in my post I was accusing SM for purposely having such an unequal clause but in your post you are stating that it is unfair but alright to have such a part in contracts because the old FTC rules said so. <br /><br />I’ve said already that rules are not craved in stones and it is up on each of us to get fairer rights. Just because in the old guidelines, FTC said that such clauses were alright doesn’t mean that things can go on when they turn out not to be so. “<br /><br />You are missing the point. FTC new ruling shows precisely that what the fan said were unfair were justified concerns. Saving face or not, if the new ruling was totally unjustified you can bet on the fact that the big corporations would have lobbied against it and won. <br /><br />“4 hrs of sleep? I don't know what that proves except they had a very busy schedule. I have personally worked with only 4 hrs of sleep or no sleep, and I never thought I was a slave, or I was unhappy. Tired? Definitely. I was tired as hell, but I worked voluntarily, and had no problems with it. Anyone who worked hard for their career will agree with me.<br /><br />You know many athletes play even when they are sick, have broken bones, bruised etc., and they play through those pains voluntarily because they have goals to achieve and they are PROFESSIONALS. The public cheers for those athletes for being true professionals and for their bravery.”<br /><br />Congratulations for enduring so little sleep in a long time and that you were happy with your work conditions. Exactly because you were happy with your conditions and you could get away from this job any time, you were not a puppet for a big corporation. But you insulating that everybody reacts to this the same way as you (or those athletes that you mentioned) do. That the regular 4 hours of sleep are not too much for them if you could survive this. <br /><br />I’ll let you in on a secret. People are different.<br /><br />You bring those athelets up as an example of people working under harsh conditions because they are “professionals”. Those guys chose to push them forward and nobody was forcing them. The fact that they still push themselves forward despite being sick and having broken bones just means that they had a strong will. Is it wrong of other people not to be able to do the same. No, but it means that those who can are praiseworthy.<br /><br />A normal worker can quit working at a company if he doesn’t like it (he doesn’t even have to be mistreated) why are they don’t they. Well you might know that before Micky Yoochun, Hero Jaejoong, Max Changmin, Xiah Junsu and U-know Yunho there are Park Yoochun, Kim Jaejoong, Shim Changmin, Kim Junsu and Jung Yunho. HUMAN BEINGS just like you and I. Different just like every other people. Just because they are singers does not mean that they are more indebted to their company and fans than the average worker to his workplace. <br /><br />“Unless you can prove that those schedules were set against TVXQ's will, you can't prove anything.”<br /><br />I remember them mentioning that they were treated like products but not like persons. That is quite telling but if you want one specific example, there would be the “last TVXQ concert” that should have happened in China but didn’t. Why, because the staff from SM organized this concert without asking those three who were suing whether they wanted to do so. From there there was this huge mess where Chinese fans found out that SM lied about something (I can’t remember what it was) And from there it was also found out that the three members never agreed the concert and because at this point there had already formed a rift between the company the concert was never held.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04603005165171871792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3913899626841067494.post-27218269945580011272011-01-09T12:52:17.444-08:002011-01-09T12:52:17.444-08:00i see my post again, thanks ^^ ... waiting for ur ...i see my post again, thanks ^^ ... waiting for ur next entryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3913899626841067494.post-59646785538732241832011-01-09T12:45:20.597-08:002011-01-09T12:45:20.597-08:00@ kendalove
It doesn't look like I can disabl...@ kendalove<br /><br />It doesn't look like I can disable spam filtering. This is first time I ever ran a blog, so I'm still not used to all the features. :)Precioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17875290064712800098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3913899626841067494.post-66927925351549188862011-01-09T12:27:05.457-08:002011-01-09T12:27:05.457-08:00@ kendalove
Hey, your post went into the "Sp...@ kendalove<br /><br />Hey, your post went into the "Spam" folder. I may have to disable it, I don't know because it happened before. <br /><br />I recovered it, so you can see it now.Precioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17875290064712800098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3913899626841067494.post-63212839418362508602011-01-09T12:17:33.849-08:002011-01-09T12:17:33.849-08:00i'm sorry but where is my post ... T___Ti'm sorry but where is my post ... T___TAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3913899626841067494.post-41817776301688499612011-01-09T11:53:05.291-08:002011-01-09T11:53:05.291-08:00@ Sakura
You are so concentrated on protecting JY...@ Sakura<br /><br />You are so concentrated on protecting JYJ, you are missing the points of my posts. FTC ruling was used by many fans to prove the contract was unfair, and I just showed the contract followed FTC's guideline all along.<br /><br />4 hrs of sleep? I don't know what that proves except they had a very busy schedule. I have personally worked with only 4 hrs of sleep or no sleep, and I never thought I was a slave, or I was unhappy. Tired? Definitely. I was tired as hell, but I worked voluntarily, and had no problems with it. Anyone who worked hard for their career will agree with me.<br /><br />You know many athletes play even when they are sick, have broken bones, bruised etc., and they play through those pains voluntarily because they have goals to achieve and they are PROFESSIONALS. The public cheers for those athletes for being true professionals and for their bravery.<br /><br />Unless you can prove that those schedules were set against TVXQ's will, you can't prove anything.<br /><br />BTW, you have listed the schedules for one whole month, and it looks just like the schedule of other entertainers in Asia. There are 30 items listed, so that means they had average of one activity per day. Almost half of the activities are filled with flying back and forth between Japan & Korea. Also note that it's the December schedule, where it's the busiest time of the year for the entertainers.<br /><br />I don't even understand why you are arguing with me, because all I've done so far was explaining about the contracts in detail, and clarifying some of the misunderstandings people had because of the twisted articles on other websites. It looks to me that you are just focused on sticking that "slave" label on the contract, because most of your arguments leads to that conclusion.<br /><br />Listen to yourself. You are trying to prove I'm wrong, but even you admit you are not sure about it (last paragraph). You say there were possibilities that they were overworked, which means there were possibilities they are not overworked.<br /><br />Finally, there's no point in arguing against an opinion. If you want to debate with me, just argue with the facts presented in my posts. I think the contract is not enough to break TVXQ, and that's just my opinion. Don't try to convince me otherwise. I don't think I tried to convince anyone in my posts. If presenting and analyzing facts are considered convincing, then be it since it shows that the info out there are all messed up.Precioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17875290064712800098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3913899626841067494.post-8273529166765141662011-01-09T11:46:45.141-08:002011-01-09T11:46:45.141-08:00@ Sakura
Ur post is really long hehe ...
anyway ...@ Sakura<br /><br />Ur post is really long hehe ...<br /><br />anyway i'm not OP but this is what i think, this blog is a blog, so it's OP personal point of view of the story. He has been objective in translate every information possible. And it's his opinion that the contract is unfair and not slave. If u think slave is a rite word to use, i don't see any problem with that cause it's ur point of view. JYJ too, could see it as a slave contract so it's their point of view. <br />Each individual take thing difference. This blog is just one POV of the story and by now i don't see anything wrong with that. At least i appreciate the accurate of the translation (i have my Korean friend look over it and it's pretty accurate). Just because the OP doesn't think the contract or schedule is not enough for start the lawsuit doesn't mean u have to have the same opinion, same for u. U think it's enough to break DBSK but the OP doesn't. <br />Thing could be fair for some1 n not for another. for ex if i was paid 5000$ a month i would be happy but imagine Paris Hilton only have 5000$ a month for living, she'll be pissed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3913899626841067494.post-32401320441120044742011-01-09T05:09:35.672-08:002011-01-09T05:09:35.672-08:00@OP
Second comment (of some reason it skipped your...@OP<br />Second comment (of some reason it skipped your summary)<br /><br />Now as everybody know there is no fair to both sides of this world (to quote your words again). And that is why there are lawsuits and rifting contracts when one side decided that the benefits do not equal to problems that it brings. Somebody very close to me involves in signing million, billion worth contracts, this person’s opinion is that you try to hold true to the contract the best you can (because lawsuits can be very time consuming and tiring) even it is unfair but if the you think it is too much you sue.<br /><br />If you personally have signed a unfair contract you look at how unfair they are. If it is something you decide you can live with, you let it be. If it is not, then it is not clever to let the things go on.<br /><br />About the Slave Contract name. As most would know, this name was coined by reporters that wanted sensational headliners but they weren’t totally wrong. According to Princeton dictionary<br /><br />Slavery<br />Noun<br /><br /> * S: (n) bondage, slavery, thrall, thralldom, thralldom (the state of being under the control of another person)<br /> * S: (n) slavery, slaveholding (the practice of owning slaves)<br /> * S: (n) slavery (work done under harsh conditions for little or no pay)<br /><br />The second definition has nothing to do with this situation and the third is very disputable whether it suits or not. However the first definition (bondage, slavery, thrall, thralldom, thralldom (the state of being under the control of another person). Is applicable to this case as before the change the artist couldn’t protest against their manager and thus SM without being punished for it financially or some other way. Again, I am getting off topic.<br /><br />And what makes you think that it is not enough to break up TVXQ? Do you know by first hand how tired they are. If this was too much for them. No, you don’t. To be fair I don’t either but that’s why there are different opinions on this. However, a logical person can look at how many projects they had going at the same time and at least conclude that there were possibilities that they were overworked.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04603005165171871792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3913899626841067494.post-44521069735624627102011-01-09T02:44:37.831-08:002011-01-09T02:44:37.831-08:00@OP
All the guys looked bad at the end of 2008 an...@OP<br /><br />All the guys looked bad at the end of 2008 and don’t try to deny that a large part of it was because they had little to no rest. That is why I mentioned Jaejoong, as he was the one who was most tired during that time. <br /><br />Let’s look at they did in december 2008:<br />2008-12-01: Recording in Japan for NHK Music Japan<br />2008-12-05: They return to Korea<br />2008-12-06: Live performance at 6:35 PM for KBS-2TV Music Bank (KBS Shingwan Open Hall)<br />2008-12-07: Live performance at 3:20 PM for MBC-TV Show! Music core<br />2008-12-09: Recording at 8:00 PM for JBS-1TV Open Concert (KBS Hall)<br />2008-12-10: Receiving Golden Disk Awards at M.net’KM, 7:00 PM <br />2008-12-12: Receiving the 16th South Korea Culture/Entertainment Awards, 3:00 PM<br />2008-12-13: Live performance at 3:30 PM for the MBC 2008 One Love Concert<br />2008-12-13: They leave Korea, fly to Japan<br />2008-12-13: Recording at 00:00 PM for Fuji-TV Heyx3<br />2008-12-23: They return to Korea<br />2008-12-23: Appear in radio (2008 ByulBam End of the Year Special [MBC]) at 6:00 PM <br />2008-12-26: Appear in Goryeo University Hwajung Gymnasium for the a special TVXQ!Debut 5th Anniversary (insert heart here) Special Party!! – 1st round, 4:00 PM<br />2008-12-26: Live performance at 6:35 PM for KBS-2TV Music Bank – End of the Year Special<br />2008-12-26: Appear in Goryeo University Hwajung Gymnasium for the a special TVXQ!Debut 5th Anniversary (insert heart here) Special Party!! – 2st round, 4:00 PM <br />2008-12-27: Live performance at 3:10 PM for MBS-TV Show! Music Core – End of the Year Special<br />2008-12-27: They leave Korea, fly to Japan<br />2008-12-28: TBS-TV Santa Mama’s New Year’s Allowance, Will your Dreams Come True Special<br />2008-12-28: They return to Korea<br />2008-12-28: SBS Gayo Daejun Rehersal<br />2008-12-29: Leave Korea, fly to Japan<br />2008-12-29: Return to Korea<br />2008-12-29: Awards show at 0:00 PM, SBS-TV 2008 Gayo Daejun<br />2008-12-30: Leave Korea, fly to Japan<br />2008-12-30: TBS-TV 50th Japan Record Awards<br />2008-12-30: Japan Kohaku Uta Gassen REhersal<br />2008-12-31: NHK-TV Music Japan Kohaku Uta Gassen Prep<br />2008-12-31: NHK 59th Kohaku Uta Gassen<br />2008-12-31: CDTV Oremier Live 2008-2009<br /><br />In between there were training, other rehersals and the Heaven Postman filming for Jaejoong.<br /><br />Also, I think the members have mentioned that frequently, during promotions time four hours of sleep were the norm. I can't guarantee that what they said was a lie or not but other artist like Rain have mentioned that happening to idols before. I mean, kudos to those people that can handle 4 hours of sleep frequently but what each person can handle is different.<br /><br />Why do you disagree that the killer schedule wasn’t enough reason to sue. Is it because they had a contract? If so, what are your thoughts on divorces? Because it is parallel in the way that two partners agree to be with each other but what they thought they signed under is not what they got or the two people changed with time and the change was not good for the marriage? <br /><br />If not that, why don’t you think it is enough reason and in what cases do you think is right to sue?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04603005165171871792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3913899626841067494.post-56259197087485568182011-01-08T19:43:47.164-08:002011-01-08T19:43:47.164-08:00@ Julie
Thanks,
I think just reading the whole c...@ Julie<br /><br />Thanks,<br /><br />I think just reading the whole contract would change many people's opinion regarding this situation. There are just too many twisted info, but you knew that already. :)Precioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17875290064712800098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3913899626841067494.post-80210354467889862792011-01-08T16:46:27.883-08:002011-01-08T16:46:27.883-08:00I just came across your blog today, and this is ab...I just came across your blog today, and this is absolutely AWESOME!! Thank you so much for doing this for all the international fans. I'm sure it'll be effective even beyond just the english language since the crappy translators our fans use probably take english better than korean.. <br /><br />It's great you're starting from the source of the contracts and lawsuits to better explain the big picture. Makes it so obvious jyj just used it as an excuse to hide the real reason for leaving!! I already side with TVXQ, but reading your posts gave me an opportunity to get the facts straight. <br /><br />Really looking forward to your future posts!!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00622801764472698251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3913899626841067494.post-38028997528758737762011-01-08T11:24:11.136-08:002011-01-08T11:24:11.136-08:00@ nedragonst
That's what JYJ said. HoMin said...@ nedragonst<br /><br />That's what JYJ said. HoMin said it was because of the cosmetics company, so who are you gonna believe? At least now you see that the contract is not a "slave" contract, so that's a start.Precioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17875290064712800098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3913899626841067494.post-38958475620459474252011-01-08T11:07:41.574-08:002011-01-08T11:07:41.574-08:00I appreciate this even though I disagree with it :...I appreciate this even though I disagree with it :) <br /><br />Something that is legally right is not always morally/ethically right. <br /><br />The break from DBSK is much more than the contract problem, JYJ has mentioned that in addition to the unfair (not slave) contract, there were various emotional abuse too.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09645884952680556056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3913899626841067494.post-90653947757349723192011-01-08T10:35:36.818-08:002011-01-08T10:35:36.818-08:00@ somebody
@ thanh
Thanks for the kind words.
Ye...@ somebody<br />@ thanh<br /><br />Thanks for the kind words.<br /><br />Yeah things like this are never black & white, and it's hard to understand why fans totally ignore Homin's side of the argument. I'm guessing it's easier for the fans to just blame the company instead of their artist.Precioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17875290064712800098noreply@blogger.com