Analyzing 6.25 meeting

The reason I waited a few days before analyzing the 6.25 meeting was to let the readers to read the translation first without my input. I was confident that any objective minded person could easily determine what the meeting was about, and the readers' comments seem to confirm my belief.

It is probably not really necessary for me to post anything about the meeting because the translation itself speaks volumes, and I'll most likely be repeating what the readers, have already said, but here it goes. 

Participants of the meeting
Junsu's father, Yuchun's mother and Jaejoong's sister and the administrators of CJS's fan cafes (clearly stated in file 1 @ 1:00)

The parents claim the meeting is to dispel rumors and to talk about the truth, but the meeting doesn't really talk much about any specific rumors.

They talk about trying to keep TVXQ as 5, but most of the times are spent on talking how the group is already split into 3 and 2. To really get that point across, they emphasize that they're holding onto 1% chance of keeping all 5, implying there's 99% chance of the group breaking up.

The rest of the meeting is about how HoMin agreed to leave together but changed their mind at the last minute after getting special treatment from SM, how SM is trying to divide the group, and problems with the contract and SM's refusal to accept any change, putting ALL the blame for the breakup on SM and HoMin.

Around the end of the meeting, the participants discuss how to "defend" the rumors, but in reality, they are talking about how to "spread" the rumors that was created in the meeting.

Most of the readers who read my blog are fans of TVXQ, and know first hand how a fan's mind works.

Imagine yourself in that meeting, you are one of the administrators of CJS's fan sites, which mean you are a devoted fan of CJS, and you are listening to the parents of CJS talking to you. Do you trust them? I bet you do. Also, they have emphasized that CJS personally requested the meeting by calling their parents early in the morning magnifying the urgency of the matter, so of course you'd trust what's being said in the meeting.

They also stir the fans' emotion by saying things like how the members have suffered, crying during the concert, and Jaejoong feeling like dying earning the fans' sympathies. As CJS fans, they must've felt extremely nervous and urgent, feeling the need to do something to protect their idols from "evil" company that's trying to split the group.

Now it's time to take a closer look at what's said in the meeting.

Let me list some of the rumors/lies said in the meeting.

* HoMin changed their mind in one hour after getting offers of individual activities from SM.
* HoMin's parents had a meeting to spread rumors before 6.25 meeting
* SM is trying to divide TVXQ
* SM is using Crebeau just as an excuse
* Crebeau has nothing to do with the split
* Problem with the contract - 9:1 profit, 13 years contract - 15 including military service

Do claims listed above sound familiar? Those are often used to blame HoMin and SM for the breakup, and I'm sure many readers heard those many times already. It's simply amazing that the rumors created from a meeting in Korea over one and a half year ago are still used to bash HoMin by some people even without any proof to support those claims.

Let me go over them one by one in detail.

[HoMin changed their mind in one hour after getting offers of individual activities from SM]

It's hard to believe that HoMin would change their mind on something as big as breaking up TVXQ in one hour. Also, it's hard to imagine that SM would find out about them leaving, and somehow promise HoMin individual activities to lure them back within that one hour. Even if it is assumed that HoMin had second thoughts about leaving, it should take more than one hour to make the decision. It's a decision that could affect the rest of their life, but they're claiming HoMin made that decision in one hour. If I were HoMin, I'd at least consult my lawyers, talk to my parents, and talk about it with CJS. There's no way I'd change my mind in one hour after agreeing to leave SM together.

Also, many fans argue that CJS won't breakup TVXQ for a cosmetics business, but they have no problem believing that HoMin would betray their friends and possible future of TVXQ for a mere commercial and a drama. Does that make sense?

As for HoMin's individual activities, TVXQ's individual activities were already planned in advance. This is the Avex's Max Matsuura's article posted on Dec 2009.

http://max.syncl.jp/?p=diary&di=283193

It talks about Junsu's solo work, and it also lists other member's planned individual activities. The activities listed are: Yunho, Changmin and Jaejoong's drama, Jaejoong & Yuchun's solo singles. But most importantly, it stated the activities were planned since the beginning of the year. 

Want to see another proof? How about one from Junsu himself?

 

The above is Junsu's interview from Elle Japan magazine around May 2010, and it talks about his solo project, and in that interview, he mentions that solo projects for each members were planned since 2009 (unit activities and drama), so he was aware of each member's individual activities.
So individual activities were planned for all 5 members, not just HoMin.


[HoMin's parents had a meeting to spread rumors about CJS before 6.25 meeting]
This was the excuse given by Junsu's father and Jaejoong's sister for 6.25 meeting, and it is the sole reason why people claim there was a 6.23 meeting. This claim in itself doesn't make sense, but I am going to make a separate post about the 6.23 meeting.

Also notice when Junsu's father talks about rumors spread from HoMin's father's meeting with HoMin fan's admins [File 2 @ 2:02], he gives an example of badmouthing Jaejoong by comparing with Yunho being the leader in Korea. That's a pretty sneaky way of provoking individual fans knowing how competitive they could be.

[SM is trying to divide TVXQ]
This is such a ridiculous claim. They're saying SM wants to split TVXQ and kick out the 3 because of the cosmetics business. SM is in the business of making money, and TVXQ is their biggest product. There's no way SM would break up TVXQ for the cosmetics business. Anyone familiar with how businesses operate would know this doesn't make sense at all. When I post about the lawsuits, the readers will find out that SM tried its best to bring the 3 back to keep TVXQ intact. SM would be the last one that would want to break up TVXQ.

[SM is using Crebeau just as an excuse]
[Crebeau has nothing to do with the breakup]
I already posted many times about this subject. If any of the readers didn't read my posts about the business, read these posts: http://truetvxq.blogspot.com/p/cosmetics-business.html

Jaejoong's sister says that he was not involved in the business in April [File 2 @ 7:09], but there's a video of Jaejoong promoting the products filmed in January. Check out Jaejoong's "Body exuding beauty video"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoHBSOomdSQ

[Problem with the contract - 9:1 profit, 13 years - 15 including military service]
Jaejoong's sister's claim of TVXQ getting 1 from 9:1 profit distribution is a flat out lie. According to the contract, TVXQ gets 70% of net profit from overseas activities.
http://truetvxq.blogspot.com/2010/12/translation-of-contract-profit.html

Also notice that Jaejoong's sister stated that she was surprised about the profit after seeing the contract. [File 3 @ 3:00] Then Junsu's father immediately corrects her saying they never saw the contract. Then later on when a fan asks how they found out about the 9:1 distribution, he simply says he happened to hear SM's president saying it.  [File 4 @ 3:44]

About the 13 year contract, Junsu's father contradicts himself. He says 13 year contract is not bad, but when asked by a fan about it, he states it's too much for the kids and make the 13 year term seems longer by including the military service that has nothing to do with SM. Whether you're in SM or not, every man has to serve in the military in Korea. There are many articles or arguments made by anti-SM people talking about the contract term being 15 years including the military service to make it seem longer than it is. Where do you think that idea came from?

Also remember the parents wanted to keep the 13 year contract, and I posted about it.
http://truetvxq.blogspot.com/2010/12/about-13-year-term-is-it-really-that.html

When a fan asked Junsu's father if the contract was ever changed, he said it never did. [File 4 @ 0:00] But the injunction judgment clearly shows that the contract was amended 5 times. Also, the contract itself shows that it was modified 5 times, so that's another lie. Notice the last modification was done in February 6. CJS filed a lawsuit in less than 6 months after they signed an amendment.

신청인	최초계약	1차 부속합의	2차 부속합의	3차 부속합의	4차 부속합의	5차 부속합의
김재중 Jaejoong	2003.5.14	2003.12.3	2007.2.16	2007.12	2008.10.29	2009.2.6.
		2003.12.3.
	2000.2.12
김준수 Junsu
		2004.1.12.
	2003.6.30
박유천 Yuchun

Now let me talk about other subjects discussed from the meeting.

In the beginning of File 3, Junsu's father talks about SM already taken measures to stop their activities in Korea, and CJS working only in Japan after leaving SM. They already knew CJS won't be able to work in Korea, and were planning to work only in Japan. I know SM is a capable company, but already blocking CJS's activities in Korea in that short period of time? Also, SM probably didn't know that CJS were filing a lawsuit for sure until they got the notice in June 24th. HoMin's parents' statement also states they didn't know about the lawsuit.

Here's an interview from CJS's lawyer Lim Sang Hyuk.

http://news.kukinews.com/article/view.asp?page=1&gCode=kmi&arcid=0002115777&cp=du

He was interviewed after the injunction judgment was granted, and here's an excerpt from the interview above.
  

임 변호사 역시 처음엔 가처분을 생각지 못했다. “처음 상담할 땐 ‘계약무효 판결은 받을 수 있다. 다만, 한동안 활동을 못할 수 있다’고 알려줬어요. 2명이 참여하지 않은 데에는 이런 이유도 있을 겁니다. 차후 법률 검토를 하면서 가처분을 해봐야겠다는 생각이 들었죠.” 

Lawyer Yim also didn't think about the injunction initially. "When I consulted them first, I told them 'It is possible to get a judgment to void the contract, but you may not be able to work for a while.' That could be one of the reasons why the 2 didn't join. I thought about filing the injunction while reviewing the laws later on."

The lawyer states he advised CJS about the possibility of not being able to work during the lawsuit. Junsu's father also mentions about getting legal consultation in the 6.25 meeting. [File 5 @ 1:11]

So they knew they couldn't work in Korea during the lawsuit, and already planned to work only in Japan to begin with, but used that information against SM to make them look "evil". The lawsuit is still going on because of them delaying the lawsuit, but the fans are still blaming SM even today for blocking CJS's activities even though CJS already knew about it.
http://truetvxq.blogspot.com/2011/01/why-is-this-lawsuit-taking-so-long.html

One other thing to note is that in the beginning of the interview, he states that he never met Changmin.

“(웃음) 이거 보도되면 안 되는데… 얼굴을 몰랐어요. 찾아온다기에 오전 내내 뮤직비디오랑 사진을 컴퓨터에 띄워놓고 얼굴과 이름을 외웠죠. 최강창민과 영웅재중이 끝까지 헷갈렸는데 다행히(?) 최강창민이 안 왔더군요.”  

"(Laugh) This shouldn't go on the news... I didn't know their faces. I was told they'd come so I played music videos and pictures on the computer all morning to memorize their faces and names. I still was confused between Max Changmin and Hero Jaejoong, but fortunately (?), Max Changmin didn't come." 

This also refutes the claim of HoMin leaving SM together. I highly doubt anyone would decide to leave SM and file a lawsuit without consulting the lawyer who's handling the case.

Going back to Japanese activities, we all know how active CJS were in Japan without HoMin after the injunction judgment was given until Avex suspended them, and only then CJS and the fans started to complain about their Korean activities.

Now let's go over the claim of CJS wanting to keep 5. The parents state they want to keep TVXQ as 5, but eventually, they always come back to the members already split into 3:2. Before this meeting, there were only rumors of TVXQ's breakup, but during the meeting, the breakup is pretty much confirmed by the parents. Then throughout the meeting, they blame HoMin, HoMin's parents, and SM for the breakup. So to the CJS's fans attending the meeting, the only way to keep the 5 is for HoMin to leave SM, and that's the 1% of hope that's left.

CJS are willing to quit Crebeau, then why didn't they? Because of the contract? But we know the contract is not that bad. The profit distribution is definitely not 9:1, and the 13-year term was signed voluntarily.

It was stated that the 5 decided to either stay together or leave together, so when HoMin changed their mind, why didn't the 3 agree to stay in SM? Another conflicting statement.

So this is what CJS's parents were telling the fans gathered in the meeting.

"TVXQ is going to breakup, and it's all because of HoMin and SM, and we're holding this meeting in response to HoMin's parents meeting spreading malicious rumors, so unless HoMin leaves SM with us, TVXQ is 99% done. Did we mention it was HoMin's fault, and they betrayed CJS?"


So after CJS's fans were fed with those information, what did they do? That's coming next.