Saturday, May 19, 2012

SMTOWN LA is almost here!!!

Hello all,

Sorry that I haven't been posting much lately (understatement of the year LOL). I think I was burnt out running this blog, and with a new job occupying most of my days, I simply didn't have much energy and time to update the blog.

Well, tomorrow's SMTOWN Live will surely motivate me.

Can't wait to see all the SMTOWN artists (TTS!!!) and of course our boys, TVXQ perform.

It would be exciting to see TVXQ perform their new songs and the old songs. I hope they perform Mirotic & Rising Sun, two of my favorites from their old catalog.

Go TVXQ!!!


116 comments:

  1. Precious!! So glad (and relieved lol) to hear from you.

    Seeing Rising Sun live in New York was most definitely a highlight for me, but tbh, every song they performed rocked my world. :)

    Every day life and health comes first, so while I checked here often and pined for you and your posts -- yes, a little pathetic, but true :D -- I'm just happy to hear from you. Take care of yourself, and be well.

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  2. OMG YOU ARE ALIVE!!

    i saw this link and thought it's been awhile so i clicked and what do you know, a new post! wow so happy you get to see SMTown LA, will you be in the Google concert as well?

    i'm excited to see their new setlist for this SMTown tour, hope they sing Mirotic and/or The Way You Are in full this time, and hoping for a new Japanese song to be translated and sung in Korean. B.U.T perhaps?

    like @shweetshar i've been pining for you as well (sounds so wrong) but health first i guess O_O jk lol. have fun! don't ogle on those TTS girls too much O_o

    p.s. i imagine that some people might want to hunt you down at the concert tomorrow ROFL!

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    1. I am alive and well. TVXQ are doing so well I figured everyone would be busy following them rather than my blog. :)

      I won't be going to the Google gig. I wish I could.

      As for hunting me down, just look for the best looking guy in the audience. (^_-)

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    2. Hi.... Are you the admin????? I have something to send you.... about SM trying to cover up something very important... Can you give me your email or twitter or facebook, please??? I am trying to spread this as fast as I could and I find your blog very famous.....

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  3. welcome back Precious! crossing fingers that TTS and of course our TVXQ will give you enough motivation to update your blog from time to time from now on.

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  4. Welcome back precious^^ we missed you! Hope you have awesome time^^ I really wanna see the boys live again^^ too.

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  5. OMG my breakfast today was precious comeback, thank god, waiting for updates..
    hug,kisses,good luck with ur new job,fighting!!!

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  6. Welcome back Precious-hope some updates are coming our way!!

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  7. two things i am looking forward to
    1st - TVXQ's comeback
    2nd - Precious' comeback

    n____________n

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  8. Precious its so good to hear from you. Welcome back. I was very surprised to check the blog and see a new update. I hope all is well with you.

    We have been following tvxq and they've been doing really well but we missed you as well.

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  9. Welcome back Precious!
    Hope you enjoyed SMTown, I've seen a lot of fancams and all of them were doing great!
    I'm a silent reader and I enjoyed your blog, it's very well written :)
    And thank you for providing the translation, it's really hard to find other correct translation out there.

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  10. Hello Precious and everyone!

    I think they have earned a lot of new fans since those two concerts. Are you sure you weren't at the Google concert? I thought this was your fancam.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oL7NrEYM3pM

    Just kidding! lol But I really love this!

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  11. Whoaaaa surprise! Haha welcome back Precious!! Hope you had a great time at SMTown LA (i's jealous~~) and hope you've been well. ^^

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  12. Hi Precious! So nice to hear that you are alive and well. LOL. Hope you had a lot of great time watching SMTown LA, esp. TVXQ and SNSD.

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  13. I really wanna learn Korean language for understand that song and TVXQ. you know where and how? I just know http://k-talk.humob.net/

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  14. hope you had fun ^____^ please do a post about the experience, I was never able to go to one of their shows, I would love to know how it's like

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  15. hey did anyone hear any updates about the lawsuit today? i keep seeing crazy OT5 going around about how JYJ won the lawsuit and HoMin are expected to join them

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    1. All the current court sessions are being held closed doors, so no info is available. Even if JYJ win the case, there's no way YH & CM would join them. It simply doesn't make sense. The lawsuit is between SM & the 3 so the outcome of it would not affect YH & CM's relationship w/SM, who btw have worked together all these years to make TV2XQ a huge success. I highly doubt SM would risk losing the fans of TV2XQ at this point. With everything the 3 had done, re-union would totally tarnish TVXQ brand, especially in Japan.

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    2. i agree with you completely. it really doesn't make sense for SM to reunite them any more. maybe if this happened a year or so ago then it might have worked but now TVXQ has re-established itself once again as a legend in the sky of Asian music. TVXQ's new fans who make up the majority of the current fandom as i see it find HoMin as inspirational figures for the actions they took throughout this mess. they want to support them not just becuz of their music but becuz of the attachment they feel to them after what they had to go through. it would cost SM even more now to re-unite the two bands that it did when they split before

      i was really hopping to hear what the SM japan CEO had to say. i feel like there is such a big mystery surrounding JYJ and Avex that SM Japan's CEO was exposed to. oh well hopefully once the decision is made, more accounts will be revealed of what took place during the court sessions

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  16. Think it was announced that the courts would make their final ruling on the case sometime next month (can't remember the exact date). Yay. Hopefully that will be the end of it, regardless of what the outcome is. Or at least the beginning of the end. Of the delusions and fanwank. Maybe those never end. Whatever.

    And um.. people still think HoMin would leave SM? To join JYJ? ...Really? I mean... what?

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  17. ^that was supposed to be in reply to @sarahM ^^

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  18. @ all

    I can't wait for the final decision. This case was dragged for so long. Don't listen to those delusional OT5 who still think that a reunion will be possible (AKTF anyone?). TVXQ2 is doing well on its own. YH and CM worked really hard (and continuously working hard) to re-establish TVXQ's name. I'm proud of our boys. President LSM even once said to Yunho that he and Changmin will just do fine as a duo (after watching the performances in SMTown 2010), hence the comeback in early 2011. If LSM (and the other board members of SME) didn't believe in them, our boys would've been let go. You see, it's not just about the money. It's also about hard-work, clear conscience, trust and continuing to pursue one's dreams. TVXQ Fighting! We are 'T'.

    Also, if JYJ wins the case, they can no longer use the name "TVXQ" in their names or be associated with it (I guess we should stop seeing "JYJ from TVXQ"), since their contract will be voided.

    I hope more accounts will come-out once this is over. Truth shall prevail.

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  19. But for the case, I really want SME to win.It will be a HUGE shove in the face for JYJ fans or whatever it is people call them.
    I'm proud of TVXQ. JIA YOU!

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    1. I really want SME to win too. I even once said that it was a good thing that SME went through with the lawsuit. I want the truth to come-out and SME be vindicated. I just want this whole mess to end.

      TVXQ now is consisted of U-Know Yunho and Max Changmin. I am proud of their hard=work and dedication. Now let's wait for "Android" and enjoy this summer.

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  20. my perfect scenario would be to have SM win too becuz i believe that the truth is on their side. then i would like to have them release JYJ from their contract with them once JYJ pay back the money agreed upon. singers need to realize that its not ok for them to sign a contract that they may not consider fair and then try to annul it once they are super famous with a massive fanbase that will do anything for them. its very unethical and unprofessional. and they need to stop with the whole "we were young and rash" excuses! they had their parents right next to them to help them and guide them! where their parents also young and rash to allow their kids to do this!?? please!

    Junsu spent 6-7 years training at SM before debuting with TVXQ in 2003. that means that he was 10-11 years old when he joined SM and signed the trainee contract which was supposedly cheap and unfair! are these people telling me that Junus's parents had no idea of their son joining SM at 11 years old and training with them for years, and then appearing on TV shows with enhyuk and sungmin before his debut with TVXQ! seriously! what about in 2008 when it was common knowledge that Junsu's parents were having negotiations with SM to get their other son into the company as well. later on fans never stopped showing their displeasure at SM for rejecting junus's brother, who btw is currently signed to AVEX! yet hes still on really good relation with his family despite having signed with the "enemy"! clearly the family only cares about money and nothing like the feelings of their younger son who was betrayed by that specific company whom hes currently fighting against..pathetic!

    considering all the pictures and accounts of JYJ's millions that they have been saving since the split and using to buy houses, apartments, and dozens of brand new cars costing millions of dollars, im pretty sure they are more than capable of paying SM back to release them from their contract legally.

    srry for the rant but i just got off an argument with someone on youtube that got me all fired up! sigh..i need to get my dose of KYHD goodness right now LOL

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  21. Is it true that July 19th is when the court will finally make its decision in the case? If so, I'm more that excited to hear about the verdict. It's about time to end this mess. TVXQ Fighting!

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  22. welcome back, precious! :)
    i hope you had a great night watching TVXQ and SNSD/TTS perform, for all the effort you put in this blog you would deserve to watch them from the first row ;)

    though, i have a question to anyone who might know more about this. in one week there is the date for the final decision, however i found a really interesting post on a quite radical JYJ site, claiming that SME's lawyers applied for arbitration.
    as usual the site makes it sound like SME is desperate to win the case and all and after a long time i even read the expression hotel-girl again. i might not like the way the article is written, but the facts stated refer to reality in some way. so what is it all about this arbitration an all the other foul tricks SME is claimed to perform?

    http://dedicatee.wordpress.com/2012/07/11/sms-lawyers-applied-for-arbitration-on-july-11/

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  23. im actually confused about this arbitration thing too! all JYJ websites r going around blabbing about how SM is trying to delay the final hearing and are desperate to not lose. apparently JYJ have never before applied for a delay in the court hearing..is this true though?

    i do recall JYJ applying for a delay last year..can someone explain whats going on!???

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  24. @pfau @sarahM

    Actually I already raged on twitter because of that post (and the article in you know where), not because I think they are lying about SM filing an arbitration, but because how the prejudiced assumption that comes with that. Just my thoughts on that particular topic:

    1. Where did the info come from? Now, I think the blogger (widmung) was the same person who posted a screencap of the ruling schedule from Seoul District Court, but this post came without any link. It makes me wonder if the information about SM's arbitration was something available to the public, or did someone leak the information out. I personally am amazed how easily 'the members' lawyers' complained about these things to fans. Don't they have a code of conduct or something? Then again, the lawyers also brought up the whole thing about Jung supposedly going to be rotated out of the 'Dream Team', so I guess I don't have any respect for them anyways, LOL...

    2. An arbitration is a VALID LEGAL ACTION, it is a way to resolve dispute outside of court (contrary to litigation). It's not something SM's lawyers came up by themselves, it is something that already exists within the legal system. If by applying for an arbitration someone is automatically guilty of 'employing dirty tricks to postpone the court' then anyone who applies for arbitration is guilty. Isn't it way to judgmental and biased to jump the gun like that?

    3. Widmung isn't SM, JYJ3 isn't SM, ChunJaeSu's lawyer isn't SM, so why on earth are the so sure on the motivation behind SM's action? The people who knew why SM filed an arbitration is SM and their lawyers. Unless they explain why they did it, I say nobody really know why they did it.

    4. IF SM did file an arbitration to 'postpone' the ruling, all I can say is... So what? ChunJaeSu (and their lawyers) also failed to file the lawsuit a week after they received an injunction in 2009, they didn't file it until about 6 months later (in fact they filed the lawsuit AFTER SM filed a lawsuit to validate the contracts). That too can be considered 'postponing' the court, no? So it's okay when ChunJaeSu does it but an outrage when SM does? Please... Again, biased and prejudiced.

    5. Like widmung explained in her post, it is up to the court whether they want to approve SM's request for arbitration or not... If it does get approved, and the court gets postponed, guess who's to blame? The court... Why did they approve the request on the first place? Blaming SM for filing an arbitration is like blaming ChunJaeSu for filing an injunction. Both sides filed for something they feel they have a right to get, don't blame them if the court grants it to them.

    PS. I am no lawyer, and I am not knowledgeable about law. So I am not going to discuss technicalities because honestly, all I know is that arbitration is way to resolve a dispute outside of court. I am under the impression that people file for an arbitration BEFORE they go to court, but like widmung say, the Korean arbitration law is different, so maybe in Korea arbitration is something completely different than that, ^______^

    @Precious

    How was SMtown LA??? And sorry for ranting on your blog XD

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    1. thanks :D
      i think the same as you. but the things i was the most curious about is if the facts written in this article about sme's requests in the past and the current request is true or not. maybe we will never know :/
      anyway it seems my most urgent question is answered, it looks like the court will announce its decision on july 19, right? :)

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    2. As far as I know, JYJ's lawyers have also delayed in the past, and they have definitely turned down requests to compromise. I can't entirely remember however since this case has been going on for so long and it's been awhile since I have paid attention to it.

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  25. ahh thank u for clarifying it Hyeonmu :)

    from what i can gather it does seem like the final decision may not be in SM's favour, but we still don't knw for sure. whatever, Thursday is just around the corner and we will finally know the results.

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  26. @sarahM

    Maybe the final decision is not in SM's favor, which would mean that the contract will be invalidated and ChunJaeSu are no longer in the company (and TVXQ). SM will lose the penalty ChunJaeSu were supposed to pay if the contract still stands, and having to bear the brunt of JYJ stans gloating and bragging, but I am sure they will survive. ^____^

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  27. 안녕하세요. 프레셔스 갤러... 다름이 아니오라 영어끌올 관련해서 도움을 받을수 있을까 해서 이렇게 코멘트 남겨봅니다. 7월 19일이 판결일이에요. 번역관련해서 혹시 괜찮으시다면 연락받을 수 있을까요?? 부탁드립니다 ㅠㅠ

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    1. 음 임시적으로 판 이메일 주소는 sunshine135790@gmail.com 예요. 가능하시다면 최대한 빨리 연락주신다면 좋겠습니다. 음 ...... 최근 동갤분위기가 매우 안좋습니다. 따라서 이메일로 연락 부탁드릴게요

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    2. 안녕하세요.
      진짜? 7월 19일에 정말오 판결일이에요? 좋아요! b(^_^)d
      고맙습니다 ^^

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    3. 네 프리셔스 갤러세요??? 근데 메일이 안와서요 ㅠㅠㅠㅠ
      혹시 컨티뉴에서 연락이 갔나요????

      7월 19일 판결일 입니다. 부탁드려요 ㅠㅠ

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    4. 저는 프리셔스 갤러의 멤버입니다.
      제가 한국어를 조금 할 수 있어서 판결일에 관해 댓글을 썼었는데 저를 프리셔스로 오해를 하신 것 같네요.. 죄송합니다ㅠㅠ

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  28. is this true? http://forums.allkpop.com/threads/sm-vs-jyj-the-verdict-has-been-pushed-back-to-the-10th-of-august.15907/page-3

    awww :(( why sm, why???

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    1. AKP just posted an article about it so I assume it has been pushed back. Also. If you read the article and how they have misreported about the events of the trial (they reported that JYJ filed the first lawsuit and SM filed the countersuit instead of it being the other way around) and the comments from most of the people posting on the article so far you may feel some rage.

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    2. Honestly though they were bitching at me just because I told them the truth that JYJ filed a temporary injunction and SM filed the lawsuit. If you wanna be on one side of the other that is fine but don't be spouting false facts or spreading them around. It was amazing all the delusional little girls thinking SM is the only one in the way of the 5 being together again and that SM is only stalling because they know they are gonna lose. Doesn't matter that Yuhno and Changmin on there own accord stayed with SM or that there is nothing out there stating SM delayed the trial decision. It just amazes me that all these JYJ fanatics would probably believe there oppas or the biased allkpop if they told them pigs fly.

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    3. So according to the comments, it seems that most people want S.M to win. But if S.M loses, then the company either got cheated by CJS's dirty tactics/South Korea's court system is downright unfair? I beg to differ. If S.M loses, I'm pretty sure that means S.M was in the wrong, and the court's verdict is supposed to prove that. However, if Precious (the writer of this blog if I'm not mistaken) can get hold of all this information about S.M being right on his own, then I'm sure South Korea's court can do the same. After all, all the links provided by Precious are mostly from Korean sites, are they not? Frankly, from the way the lawsuit is progressing, it's only natural to think that CJS's going to win, so all this time, I was assured that S.M may have done some wrongdoings to CJS and well, I hope the company learns. But after reading some of the posts on this blog, it doesn't quite add up.

      I guess what I'm trying to say is, if South Korea's justice system is corrupted, then I don't know what to rely on anymore. Everyone claims that the fansites and blogs are all lies and so in that case, I've decided to just observe the process of the lawsuit. If I'm mistaken about this, could anyone care to explain (because I admit, I did not read all of this blog's posts)? If this comment gets removed somehow, then I'll just assume that this is another fake blog spreading lies. Sorry for the serious offense, but I just can't help myself. I'd prefer to have Precious himself explain, so please refrain from unnecessary bashing.

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    4. The links provided by Precious are from Korean sites. However, they are accompanied with official documents to back-up his translation, as the majority of us are either in the process learning Korean or just starting to learn the language. We are not bashing the members of JYJ or their fans. People think that our comments are some form of bashing, because, well, we defend SME. Our comments are based on facts, not some rumors. For example (this was a comment/conversation that other readers had before in this blog), when JYJ released their "In Heaven" album, CJeS entertainment claimed that they have sold "x" amount of the albums. We corrected this by saying that the "x" number of sales that the company released was not the official sales, but the pre-orders, which are two different things. We corrected this because we don't want hardcore JYJ fans say, "In your face SME," when their claims are not backed by facts. Eventually, Gaon chart released the official count and it wasn't even that close to what the company has originally stated. As for the lawsuit, JYJ did file an injunction first. SME proceeded to file a lawsuit and JYJ the countersuit. It was JYJ's side that failed to file the lawsuit first. My advise to you is to read this whole blog. You will be surprised with the difference with the information you will get from this blog from the other sites. You decide whether or not this blog is fake and just spreading lies. If you have a Korean friend who is neutral about this matter, ask him/her to help you with the translation of the original Korean transcripts that are found here. Feel free to keep asking us questions.

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    5. The funny thing to me is that no one in here has ever claimed that the system was corrupt if SM lost in fact the only people who have ever claimed a corrupt system are JYJ fanatics. Who praised the system when they were on JYJ side then vilified them when they did not agree with them. Honestly unless you are actually willing to read the blog and check out the official documents I don't understand why you came here. Personally I don't want to bash but it just seems like you are yet another JYJ fan trying to tell us your neutral while trying to put us down for what we believe in. If you actually bothered not to be lazy(excuse the offense) and read something you would realize that all of this has sources attached unlike most JYJ sites who just want you to believe whatever they tell you to. P.S. CJeS has spent the majority of there time lying to there fans you can look up the past contradictory articles to prove it but that is what you get when you are managed by a convicted criminal.

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    6. Ehh? I’ve read all the blog entries and the comments; no one here said that if SM loses it means the court is corrupt or ever believes that SM is an angel either; SM is a company with a company views and interests. However, I heard it quite often from the other side; court is just when it goes to JYJ favors and the court is corrupt if it goes to SM favors. All JYJ sufferings are SM fault (never JYJ or CJeS fault) because no matter what SM does or doesn’t do, SM is ‘de facto’ evil.

      I think most of us here want SM to win because of the irritating behaviours and double standard of the other side towards Yunho and Changmin; if from the beginning they could leave Yunho and Changmin out of this mess between JYJ and SM, I really couldn’t care less which side will win. Whoever wins in the end, I hope they will settle all the damages both side inflicted on each other. If JYJ wins, I hope they and the fake OT5 could really leave TVXQ for good since to JYJ there’s something much more important than TVXQ after all.

      Btw, I hope someone could translate that 4 parts of Ono Toshiro’s blog; it seems interesting.

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    7. same here! you won't find me claiming that the court is unjust if SM loses but i do want SM to win becuz i believe that way JYJ carried out their behaviour along with their fans has been very improper and vile.

      i do believe that they should be punished so that pple realize that what they have done is not right. btw im not condemning the fact that they filed the lawsuit or choose to leave SM. im condemning the way they behaved towards TVXQ and their own fans, which was filled with hypocrisy and lies, over the past 3 years.

      @fc

      who is Ono Toshiro?

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    8. If I'm not mistaken Ono Toshiro is a Law journalist. I think he is interested in mafia involvement in the business/ entertainment industry, that’s why he is interested in Tohoshinki case.

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    9. oh ok. i just looked him up on google and it appears that JYJ3 has been keeping a close watch on him, and translating his words. however, i have zero trust in JYJ3's bias translations so i will refrain from reading them and hope someone can give us a clear unbias translation of his words.

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    11. @fc and sarahM They should keep a close eye on him truth is the closest person to the mafia in this whole situation is CJeS boss. Everyone knows about his connections. JYJ3 has to distort that information so no one finds out just how underhanded there boss is. SM has no pull in the court of law as proven by Hangeng's case however I would not put it past CJeS boss to know some one who might be willing to you know overlook some things. Personally I don't think the courts in these type's of situations are corrupt I do believe the outcome will be a fair one regardless of who wins. But considering JYJ boss background they should be looking at him not SM.

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  29. a lot of people are throwing around "3 years" but it's been 2 years since the main lawsuit was filed not 3. Hangeng had a swift end to his lawsuit, i think around a year, because in the end he was willing to come to some (amicable) terms with SM. and lol at all the "SM is butthurt" comments i see everywhere. all this mess cannot be boiled down to "SM is butthurt". there are legal implications for breaking a contract and what SM is doing is exhausting every single legal means available to them to chase after the parties who breached the contract. if it is legal to file for arbitration over and over and as long as the court accepts the request then SM lawyers would just keep doing that.

    the ideal ending for me to this is for the 3 to just buy themselves out of their contract. well maybe i'm being too idealistic...

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  30. What is happening now with TVXQ? Is JYJ part of TVXQ? I'm confuzzled.

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    1. Technically, JYJ is still part of SME and TVXQ. That's why there is a lawsuit. The trio wants to invalidate their "slave" contract with SME and if the court rules in their favor, they will not have to pay the hefty fine for breaching their contract with SME. They are able to promote as JYJ because of the injunction ruling made by the court. If you are asking because of the profiles in the websites, the truth is that their profiles have always been there. Even in SMTown and Avex websites. I don't know why netizens are making a big fuss about this. I mean if you look at SMTown's website, you will still see their previous artists' pictures there (ie. Shinhwa, Fly to the Sky). As for Naver, Daum, or Nate (I'm not sure which one) listed Yunho as a "former" member, don't even bother with it. Someone must've written it in that way to cause controversy and rumor, especially when August 10 is just around the corner, when the verdict from the arbitration is going to be out. Oh well.

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  31. so anyone has any updates on today's court session?

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    1. I heard both sides failed to reach an agreement, so another trial is set for September 13th. Seriously, I just want this mess to end. I think JYJ should just pay the fee and end it. Of course, they will lose the money, but they will earn it back again. I'm getting tired of reading how SM is evil and b***hurt. If the company is that evil, I don't think anybody would be willing to sign a contract with them to train and eventually debut as a group. *shakes head*

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    2. I also heard that the contract of the three has been nullified and that the trial for next month is about the compensation that JYJ wants for the lawsuit and the fee SM wants for the contract that has been nullified. I am not sure whether this is true or not, since translation from news sites could be wrong. Let's see what's going to happen next month. I hope K-Cassies can shed light to this (if they do know more information about this recent development).

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    3. I know how you feel. All of the people bashing SM and again disrespecting the choice made by Changmin and Yunho have gotten me feeling quite frustrated. I really want things to go in SM's favor so they can get some sort of validation. People were saying, "Thanks to what JYJ did, SM artists got better contracts, etc etc." And were also using a statement made by a JYJ lawyer (SM just wants to forget the past) as a way to bash SM some more (although I did reply to those comments to point out that was a statement made by JYJ's lawyer and thus a biased statement). I'm just over this. And I will be sick if in September the court rules in JYJ's favor and I have to put up with all the JYJ sympathizers and SM bashers feeling vindicated because they will forever hold up SM as the evil company in the industry.

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    4. yes i did read here http://pink-dongbangshidae.tumblr.com/post/29121955593/sm-entertainment-and-jyj-to-have-another-trial-in

      "After this recent hearing, it’s been confirmed that the exclusive contracts signed by both sides have been nullified, and that the decision to secure the individual entertainment activities of the JYJ members has been upheld."

      so this should mean that JYJ, LEGALLY, are no longer under SM or part of TVXQ. so yes this should mean that the future hearing will be about settling the compensation money. JYJ's lawyer really gets on my nerves. i get that hes bias and wants his side to win but this emotional conflict that hes constantly creating is really annoying. he really loves controversy doesnt he!??

      I was really hopping that this whole mess would end before TVXQ's next comeback.

      btw since JYJ are no longer part of SM or bound to TVXQ through their contract are we gonna see Jaejoong remove his JYJ FROM TVXQ statement on twitter???

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    5. If what you say is true, they better leave Homin alone. They went through too much just to get where they are now. Seeing them having so much success after the bashing and death threats, makes me respect them more, same with SM. I agree with treya_barton, I will be angry if it does go in JYJ's favour. We would be seeing a lot stans gloating and pointing in our and SM's faces saying "I told you so." I have a feeling even if they do win ....they will bash them even more(but not as much as they would have if goes in SM's favour).

      I don't think JYJ will leave them alone after this either. Who knows. I just hope they won't hurt them more than they do now. Like what dengelmaster21 said let's wait until next month or until some people tell us something about the court hearing. I just hope the court rules in SM's favour.

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    6. Honestly I would be skeptical about that apparent word of truth.Firstly neither side has released an official word on the stance of the contract and you know that CJeS would have been posting out the ying yang about SM being wrong and them being right if it was so. Secondly that is the only site I have even seen that says anything about the contract being invalid. Not only that but do any of you know how a lawsuit works?? Most times if the court has made the decision rather then it going to arbitration the verdict and the settlement would be read at the same time. Not your right but we will come back later and decide what you get. They would only end up back in court if an appeal was filed and it would not end up back in court that fast. It seems to me that some misunderstanding has happened which considering that as far as I know if was a closed session could happen. The information comes second hand without an official word on it is so I would not necessarily believe it as fact.

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    7. I agree with LadyYejin, until I can see an official announcement that the contract is nullified and all the things related to the lawsuit is over, then I am just going to take those articles with a grain of salt.

      If the contracts are nullified, I will say I am a happy fangirl because THAT would make the three "EX MEMBERS" status OFFICIAL XDDDD

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  32. Hey Precious. I've been a silent reader since last year December lol.....srry that I didn't comment waaay sooner. You have no idea how you opened my eyes about this issue. At first, like everyone else, I bashed SM....LSM in particular. But then went on to bashing KYM, after founding out some stuff about LSM(He really isnt bad as ppl think he is).

    I have a few reasons why I did that. First is because of poor Hangeng ): but I do know that the JYJ case is different from his case. Second, seeing SM Town artists being so tired, like SNSD, Super Junior and SHINee. I already disliked SM's methods of taking care of their artists in the first place. It grew when I knew about the CJS issue. Now I feel guilty bashing them for the CJS case....

    To tell the truth I knew DB5K before knowing about the lawsuit. You can thank Super Junior's EHB for that lol. After I heard of the lawsuit, I was shocked. The 5 boys looked so happy together, so why would they break up like that? If they actually cared about Homin, why didn't they just stay together until their 13 year contract is over. I had no idea why but Homin drew me in more than JYJ even before hearing their (JYJ's) music. What drew me away further from JYJ is their crazy fans.....*shudders* their commenting are hurtful,agressesive and scary.

    I didn't really think CJS had more motive than to get out of SM because the contract is unfair. I didn't bash Homin but I did wonder why would they stay at SM so many times and didn't join their `brothers'. So I tried to do my own little research about what was so unfair about the contract and why Homin would stay at SM, I found plenty of articles from the JYJ side. But I could tell it was too biased to be the truth. I was about to give up until I found your blog.

    I was shocked, angry, frustrated, outraged, & etc. when I read all of your posts until now. WTH is wrong with them!? How could they throw their so-called `brothers' under the bus and be at the mercy of their(CJS) fans!? Without even trying to stop their fans bashing them!? I didn't know the existence of 6.25, Crebeau, and Forever(the only good thing I found out. I respect her/him LOL) until now. I really want SM to win no matter what. CJS really needs to pay for what they've done. Most important of all, for people to know the real truth, not the crap they're giving to the public and fans.

    Thank you so much, Precious, for the work you've done for Homin and us, international fans who can't read Korean as much as we want to without it being manipulated into what some people want to spread. I really hope you won't get hunted down by the CJS fans....I'm really sorry that I writing too much. But I just want to get it out, especially being a silent reader since December until now LOL.

    P.S Hope you had an awesome time at SM Town LA! I wish I went ):

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    1. Sorry for ranting guys :/ I also do apologize for being too harsh in the comment above. The recent news about the lawsuit just really frustrated me. I'll try not being too harsh in the future, I promise.

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    2. That's okay, everyone here went through some varying degree of emotions too when we first learned about what happened, especially the part where Yunho and Changmin was heavily bashed for making a choice.

      Welcome to the club ^___^

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  33. By the way, there's translation about the letter of confirmation from Avex, it's from Ono Toshirou blog too, as expected a very interesting news; http(:)//t-hikari(.)livejournal(.)com/25211(.)html

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    1. thank you for posting this. it was certainly an interesting read.

      tbh there is one word that can describe my feelings at this moment and its "fear"

      the more i know about JYJ, the more I fear them and their power to twist things around. all these years they have made and continue to create false scenarios that portray them as the innocent kicked puppies yet behind that façade resides a really scary reality. those 3 should have seriously gone into politics since they seem to be so good at playing the innocent card game. reading about their mother selling cereabeu products at THSK's concert is very shady too.

      reading this also makes me fear Avex, becuz i don't think that everything stated here is true. the reason I say this is becz Avex makes it self sound like it still held honorable feelings to SM during 2009 and 2010, when in reality Avex jumped on the bandwagon to bash SM and HoMin by allowing its most impo figure in the company, CEO Max M., to publicly attack yunho and changmin on twitter. not to mention that Avex sold all their shares in SM and cut all ties to it.

      from the above document, it doesn't seem like JYJ's side ordered Avex to cut all ties to SM and publicly humiliate HoMin, so i don't feel like they were forced to do that either. plus we all remember how Max M. praised jaejoong during the year-end awards about how nice and wonderful he was while HoMin refused to treat him properly. Honestly, if he really wanted to remain with SM and tried to help JYJ get back to SM, would HoMin, specifically changmin, have treated him to coldly back then? i would have thought HoMin would have stood on his side and treated him with more regard and gratefulness.

      there is just something really off about the whole thing, and i dont think either side is being completely honest here.

      i do think that Avex is hiding important facts that may include them being involved in encouraging JYJ to leave SM. After all Avex is a business company so it would be in their advantage if JYJ are signed exclusively with them without having a third partner in the middle (aka SM)taking a portion of the profit. but i do think that Avex didn't take into account that JYJ will be signed to a new company that may partially belong to them. i think this along with the fact that SM was suddenly at the top once again thanx to SNSD's and Shinee's success in Japan, and the sudden announcement of TVXQ's comeback that was received very enthusiastically by japanese fans (probably more so than when JYJ held their Tokyo Dome concert and released their japanese album "The..") freaked Avex a bit and made them reconsider their decision of helping JYJ.

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  34. This confirmation letter from Avex at least tells us from their point of view what was happening at that time. We will never know everything that happened to cause the split of tvxq but it confirms my support for the two membered tvxq. It was a really good decision by Yunho and Changmin not to get involved with Crebaeu. The cosmetics business showed us a different side of jyj and sadly not a good one. I believe Yunho, Changmin and their fathers when they say it was the cosmetics business that caused the split because it was only after Avex and Sm asked jyj to quit the cosmetics business because it was bringing down tvxq's name (among other things), that they filed an injunction against Sm. I don't believe the contract is the real reason they left. Up till that point the contract was not an issue at all. Imo it was used as the means to get out of Sm but their parents signed those contracts and were explained to why those contracts were as long as they were. They scrutinized every detail of those contracts and signed on the dotted line. Anyway that's in the past but this letter from Avex reminds me of the unfair bashing that Yunho and Changmin went through because of decisions made by jyj and their families. It brings back terrible memories of just how bad it was after the split. The confusion and the bashing without proof and the silence of Yunho and Changmin for a very long time.
    This official document of Avex certainly makes for interesting reading and adds more questions than answers on top of the ones we already have that have not been answered and probably never will.

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  35. Hiiii~ Precious, so good to see u update again

    For some unknown reasons I couldn't access Facebook, blogspot for months so I can only post now, too late to say "Hi" to you, I know. As long as those 3 don't cause any mess like last time TVXQ came back, I don't really care about those rumor that these AKTF fans spamming everywhere =.=

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  36. I'd like to clear something on my comments posted on August 22, 2012 3:19 AM. Sorry for wasting people's time reading all the comments. You're right, there's no such comment about SK's justice system being corrupt. My mistake. I guess I got that from somewhere else. Hope that's cleared. However, no one answered my question. Defending S.M is fine, since it's so-called backed up with proof, but how is it that the court does not know of these things, and are also in CJS's favour? And excuse me, but if I start 'condemning' S.M, that does not make me a JYJ fan. I don't quite understand where those assumptions come from, but once again, please refrain from unnecessary bashing.

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    1. The court does know these things and since the court has yet to make a judgement there is no proof anywhere that the court is on CJS side. In fact other then the the temporary injunction CJS has yet to win any lawsuit in court despite there best effort to sue anyone who "supposedly" opposes them. Honestly I don't know where you are getting your information but there has been nothing to suggest or indicate that the lawsuit is going in either direction. Also it was the way your statement was worded that made it seem like you are a JYJ fan and your attempts to sway an opinion on that not a very good one. One doth protest to much. That is not bashing that is how I feel. Oh and when you come in here bashing us stating comments that we never made expect people to bite back. I may be a respectful adult but I don't handle people putting words in my mouth very well just as you obviously don't.

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    2. ok but when has the court sided with JYJ?

      u see like LadyYejin said, The court has never actually sided with either side. it has actually been quite neutral in its judgement thus far. the only time the court sided with JYJ was when JYJ won the injunction, but u need to remember the injunction was only to allow JYJ to do their own solo activities outside of SM. However, the injunction ruling did NOT state that the contract is invalid. therefore, the contract is still very much legal and valid until the court makes its decision this Sept.

      i can understand your frustration as its hard to come by news about the lawsuit that is actually unbiased. ALL kpop international news sites have been posting articles biased to JYJ due to JYJ's popularity with international fans. they haven't even bothered research the facts stated in those articles to decide whether they are legitimate or not (ex the articles claiming that SM does not own TVXQ's name, which as we can see on the KIPRIS site are false claims) they have always tried to hide any news that might bring disadvantage to JYJ or at least twisted the news so that it was in JYJ's advantage.

      one such news is the one that carried statement by JYJ's own lawyers regrading how the contract with SM was already invalid after the injunction decision came out. therefore, fans naturally assumed that the court is siding with JYJ. reality is though, the court has never made a ruling on the validity of the contract up to this point.

      u say that the court is siding with JYJ but if u check out JYJ3 u will see many pple complaining that the court is siding with SM, and that SM has bought the justice system. this was especially the case after SM recently won a lawsuit against some organization

      the only thing the court has been doing so far is encouraging both sides to find a solution on their own that satisfies them both. however, that hasn't happened yet so the court will be making its own decision this month and both sides will have to stick with it.

      Yes the court does know everything becuz almost every single doc on this site was submitted as evidence to the judge. this is why the court has taken so long to come up with a decision as i think initially the court expected things to easily go into JYJ's way after all these articles being released regarding slave contract and what not. Suddenly, here comes SM with strong evidence to back up their statements. this caused the whole thing to get really messy.


      also, i never said that SM is 100% innocent in this matter. i said there are 2 issues with the SM's contract that may sway the court's decision to JYJ. the first is the length of the contract (13 yrs) which is too long, however, SM can jump over this problem if they provide decent statement with evidence about why its 13 yrs long. the second issue is the huge sum of money SM requires JYJ to make due to having breached the contract. I don't remember the actually amount of money but someone here can help you with that but i think it was $4.5 million USD. if the court finds that sum too much then JYJ may win.

      honestly, I get where ur coming from, and im glad u have come here to ask becuz i know that this is the only place that will actually provide u with unbiased translations of important documents and many of us were actually on JYJ's side to begin with, and only through reading these documents did we realize the truth of the matter.

      the ruling could go either way as both sides have their advantages and disadvantages, problem is win or lose SM will continue to get bashed.

      personally if I were the judge, i would declare the contract to be valid as this will maintain order in the music industry and prevent others from signing contracts easily only to file lawsuits against them after they get popular. but then i would also decrease the sum of money that JYJ has to pay for damages and contract breach to something more reasonable and within Korean standards.

      this to me seems like the best and most fair decision.

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    3. I'm not sure if I can compare with the American music industry vs. the Korean. But there has been plenty of cases where companies sue singers for breach of contract. It's usually around that much.

      But don't forget JYJ borrowed money from SM and on top of that, the amount they have invested in JYJ since trainee days. Junsu trained for 7 years. He was trained to dance, sing, act, host, model and everything for 7 years. American artists don't even have that or at least it's not noticeable.

      4.5 million should be valid.

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    4. @ SHINee_Suju_Animelover

      Hello, sorry for the late response. I've been swamped with work, and don't have much time lately.

      One thing many people forget is that the lawsuit is ultimately about validating the contract, not everything that went around it. If you read my posts, I even said there's a good chance that SM may lose the lawsuit because of few sections in the contract that may be deemed unfair by the court. A lot of posts I wrote don't even have anything to do with the lawsuit itself, the biggest example would be the 6.25 meeting.

      When you have time, I suggest reading my posts from the beginning, then you will have much clearer idea of what really went on, and you'll see (hopefully) that CJS is just using the contract as an excuse to get out of SM for their own gain.

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  37. I saw somewhere up there that somebody asked about the translation to Ono Toshiro's blog about AVEX' statement to the court.

    T-Hikari had translated it and posted it on her livejournal.

    t-hikari . livejournal . com / 25211 . html

    It's long, but quite eye opening ^___^

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    1. thanx for posting the link but fc above beat you to it lol ;)

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    2. LOL, I completely missed fc's posting... Thanks *wink*

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  38. Thank you, that answers my question.Thank you especially to LadyYejin and sarahM, for being patient with me. Yes, actually I came across many blogs and big K-fansites (AKP, Soompi, etc.)and they certainly point to just one direction. This blog though was different and so, I decided to approach it (sorry if I phrased the comment rudely and caused misunderstandings).But I believe it's up to me to decide how I interpret your responses.

    @sarahM
    I was quite intrigued by this part of your kind reply:
    "Yes the court does know everything becuz almost every single doc on this site was submitted as evidence to the judge."

    Is that for real? I was under the impression that this was a very hard-working bystander's blog, but a direct connection to the judge? Can you go into details? I'm genuinely curious.

    I have another question though. Does that mean there's no win/lose concept in this lawsuit? JYJ and SM just have to come to a mutual agreement and problem's solved? I'm sorry, that part I could not understand. After all, I'm not a law student but I do have a general idea how it works (and a very amateur one, indeed, it seems...)

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    1. this blog does not have a connection to the judge (at least i think it doesn't lol..then again maybe its the judge himself posting the stuff here :P..kidding).

      the documents I was referring to are those related to TVXQ's contract and profit distribution that SM submitted to the court, and the court has uploaded a copy of it on its own official Korean Central Court website and the FTC. articles regarding SM owning the right to TVXQ's name were written based on information provided on the KIPRIS site (korea's official trademark and patent site)

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    2. other information on this site were provided based on SM's and CJeS's statements during the earlier court session that were open to the public.

      "Does that mean there's no win/lose concept in this lawsuit? JYJ and SM just have to come to a mutual agreement and problem's solved?"

      no. the court tried to make the 2 sides find mutual agreement by themselves for the past 2 years. however, both sides have way too many differences and can't seem to agree on anything, therefore they have failed over and over again to reach an amicable settlement.

      the problem would have definitely been solved if both sides had come to a mutual agreement but that didn't happen.

      therefore, the court has now decided that they will be making a judgement as both sides have failed to reach a solution of their own.

      now its up to the court to decide whether the contract is valid or not.

      what i said about SM is that if they win, they will continue to get bashed even more so by JYJ stans and kpop fans in general about how they supposedly manipulated the court case, but if they lose they will also get bashed by JYJ stans and a lot of kpop fans in general becuz they now have a proof that SM's contract was unfair.

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    3. Just want to back up @sarahM's reply, particularly the no win-lose sitch you guys are discussing. In one of the earlier court sessions that was open to the public, the judge specifically said that he thought the best course of action was for the two parties to come to a mutual settlement, because it seemed that whatever verdict the court could give would result in losses to both sides anyway. To this SM said they were more than willing to negotiate, and JYJ side said they refused to negotiate. You can read an overview of that hearing here:
      http : //2paradise . us/bo/bbs/board . php?bo_table=lawsuit&wr_id=95&page=2

      Also, I think the last hearing that was open to the public was around mid-2011, so it's strange that people are claiming the courts are favoring one side or the other. No one actually knows what's been going on. I think the only statements that have been released have been from JYJ's lawyers, who of course are not going to say anything except that JYJ is winning. SM has been very close-mouthed about the whole thing, which imo is expected behavior from a company like that. They're the biggest entertainment company in Korea, publicly traded, and their Hallyu stars have squeaky clean images. Going around talking about an ongoing lawsuit is not exactly the way to maintain a good public image.

      And as far as SM or JYJ winning... Precious himself has stated several times that he can see the case going either way, and after reading up on stuff here and elsewhere I agree. I hope you take the time to look over posts at this blog and elsewhere as objectively as you can... and sidenote, AKP and Soompi are very very far from being unbiased and reputable sources. AKP always goes for the sensationalist 'news' bites, and Soompi TVXQ thread was chaos fangirl battleground for a long time - it finally split into 2 threads (now wholly independent of each other), and the HoMin thread mods and participants made the conscious decision to not talk about the lawsuit and JYJ. Simply because Yunho and Changmin are not involved in them in any way, and it always caused more strife than anything else. As a result, Soompi discussions of the lawsuit are heavily JYJ biased.

      Can I say also, the purpose of this blog was never to prove SM "right" - the blog was started with the express purpose of defending Yunho and Changmin who were bashed like crazy for literally years by their own fandom. It sounds like you're not a TVXQ fan, so there's a lot of backstory you're probably not aware of. Um. If you're interested, here is a timeline of events related to the three's involvement with Crebeau and filing the lawsuit:: http : //2paradise . us/bo/bbs/board . php?bo_table=lawsuit&wr_id=102 The 625 meeting is why and how HoMin were the scapegoats for the split. If you haven't read it already, Precious posted a full transcription of the recorded meeting on this blog.

      Jeez. I am sorry for writing so much. I'm glad you're open to discussion though, and hope you do make your own conclusions after reading objectively. I think that was what Precious was hoping for with the blog as well.

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      I see. So the court has not decided whether the contract is valid or not? If I may ask, what do you think will be the conclusion of this lawsuit, as in something like a prediction, because I'm quite sure you've done your research. Based on what you've read, perhaps?

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      Oh, actually I don't mind long replies, since it's related to what I'm asking about. Regarding Crebeau, I'm quite sure that there was news about the cosmetic business not being the cause of the lawsuit or something like that. The court dismissed Crebeau being a part of anything, if I wasn't mistaken? Or is that not true?

      I'm not proud to say that I'm not the research-type, but more of the 'read-every-news-and-article-and-make-own-conclusion' type and only recently, did I sign into this old account just to start reading from blogs. To put it simply, I'm lazy, since I only want to know about certain information and not know anything that doesn't concern me. I hope it's not wrong to just ask from those who've followed this blog up-to-date?

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    5. The lawsuit against Crebeau by SM was dismissed but then again so was the lawsuit that Crebeau filed against SM. Technically while there was never any blame placed against Crebeau it was found by prosecutes that the boys of JYJ were not minority owners as they claimed. It was found out that they owned 62% of the company meaning they were the majority owners.

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    6. Now I must add while Crebeau obviously cannot be held accountable for any part of this lawsuit because it was found it was not there fault it could still be a part of the outcome in the end. The signing of the endorsement deal with Crebeau was still against the contract stipulations in there agreement with SM. All of these things are probably going to be gone over before a decision is made.

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      honestly its very difficult for me to predict becuz we don't know what has been submitted to the court over the past hearing sessions that were done in private. if this was in a Western country, then I would assure u SM would have already had in the bag. You just need to look at George Michael's lawsuit against Sony back in the 90s to see how rigid and strict the system is in such countries. I'm not sure how the Korean court system works (ie whether it does take into account the public opinion or not) so it really can go 50-50 in my opinion.

      about the cosmetic business. LadyYejin has already explained it clearly but i will just expand on it a little. I know that international English Kpop sites like to ignore certain happenings so I would like to highlight those

      1)SM representative made a public statement that Crebeau is the reason JYJ left SM and filed the lawsuit.

      2)Crebeau filed a lawsuit against SM for defamation and interfering with its business.

      -outcome:

      a. The lawsuit was DROPPED as NO EVIDENCE was given to prove any defamation acts by SM

      b. Korean DA (investigation team) found out that JYJ and their families owned 62.5% of the shares at Crebeau. this means that the President of Crebeau had literally lied when he said previously that JYJ were only minor investors with 1/10 of the shares. Clearly JYJ are MAJOR owners of the company. this is very important becuz it disapproved all the claims JYJ made early on about how they did not care for the cosmetic business since its only a small investment. they are pretty much the major shareholders, so we'r talking about HUGE sums of money going into their pockets from this business, not just few dollars. this also means that they invested probably hundreds of thousands of dollars (if not millions) to become such major shareholders. therefore, they would be crazy to step on this new business investment of theirs.

      3)SM filed a counter-lawsuit against Crebeau for defamation and interruption of business, but lawsuit was dropped due to lack of evidence.

      this is Precious's link to all the info I just described. Its very straight forward and should explain a lot.

      http://truetvxq.blogspot.ca/2011/01/cosmetics-companys-lawsuit-against-sm.html

      sadly, the only thing u will read about on international kpop news sites about this cosmetic business topic is how SM lost to Crebeau without actually knowing that Crebeau started it all, and the huge finding of JYJ's actual shares in Crebeau.

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      I think SarahM already explained a lot about why Crebeau is caught into the mix, but honestly there were never any investigation done to "whether or not Crebeau was the cause of the breakup".

      As explained above, Crebeau was the first one who brought themselves into the legal battle when they filed a complaint that SM was defaming them. There were never any statement by any official that "It has been proven that Crebeau is not involved". What was decided by the DA is that there is not enough proof that SM tried to defame Crebeau, and not enough proof that Crebeau tried to defame SM, simple as that.

      Unfortunately the writing of the article about SM's counter suit being dismissed by the DA was given the headline along the line of "SM counter suit dismissed by court, Crebeau proven innocent in TVXQ's breakup", which is the headline quoted and spread by international news and kpop fans. Nobody seemed to see that the only reason SM filed a counter suit was because Crebeau filed a complaint first, a complaint that was thrown out by the court as well.

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    9. Thank you everyone. I see a bit more to the story now. Then may ask in turn, why it seems that the international k-pop news are withholding information that is seemingly important and should be included to justify that their news are all 100% unbiased? Is it because they are all, in fact, biased towards JYJ/ want to defame S.M?

      To me, if some K-pop news written in English are biased, then the majority who read them (international fans) will only naturally believe it, thinking that it's unbiased. What do you think? Is it true?

      Honestly, I don't want to believe that such major K-sites are actually biased towards anything because that IS what I've been reading up until now. Does this mean that at least, regarding this JYJ-SM issue, the unbiased info can be found on this blog?

      If I'm being a bit too blunt, I'm really sorry. But I can only relief my curiosity this way. I am just interested to know the opinions of people who have done their research, unlike me.

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    10. To be honest with you, some K-sites are actually biased to JYJ. I think this is because of the "sympathy" they felt with the issue of "slave contract." Let me clarify something first. The "slave contract" was never the first issue with all of this mess. The real issue was the involvement of JYJ and their family in the cosmetic business. Also, it was the Japanese fans who brought-up to the attention of Avex about how one of the members' mother was selling the cosmetic stuff during their concert in Japan. The issue of the "slave contract" was then brought-up after this. For me, it seemed that once this issue with the contract came-out, certain groups of people think that the trio were the only victims and SME was pure evil. Also, the fact that the news that you read in English K-sites are the translated versions from the Korean sites make it hard for the real facts to be incorporated to the translated versions.

      My advice to you is to do research. You can be lazy all you want, but if you want to further your understanding of this matter, you have to start researching about it. Look-up a site that also discusses this lawsuit and compare that website to the way this blog has been constructed. Only then you will see the difference and which site is actually biased to one group. I understand that this blog is already wordy and loaded with technical terms, but only then you will understand that this blog has no intention of defaming an artist. This blog only aims for the truth to come-out. Precious provides his readers with translations of this issue (translations of news), which are backed-up with official documents from the court.

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    11. @ SHINee_Suju_Animelover
      I would like to quote some phrase that I read in a book “We tend to take the opinion of the government, political parties and media as being the correct views and accept them readily; however, those opinions do not necessarily represent the truth. To us scholars, what is important is what is real, what is true, not the national interest; over this point, political parties and media have the same problem.” So yeah, it’s up to you whether you want to believe in media readily or find the truth based on facts yourself.

      I think Precious never said that his blog is unbiased but the facts that he found made him biased to Yunho and Changmin; you may disregard his opinions but the facts he found is unbiased. I think it’s better if you see this issue from many point of views with calm and open mind; from Yunho and Changmin, JYJ, SM and Avex before drawing some conclusions.

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  40. @SHINee_Suju_Animelover
    Hi again~
    I think the girls above have answered your Crebeau query pretty thoroughly. As you can tell, the cases and verdicts and such are all wrapped up around legalese - the legally binding language and contracts of...such stuff. SM never filed a suit accusing Crebeau of causing the split. It's kpop "news" that added on the sensationalist headlines to imply that. And.. seriously, I know I'm repeating this for the umpteenth time, but because this was NEVER in kpop news:: Crebeau filed a lawsuit against SM FIRST, and it was dismissed due to lack of evidence. SM filed a countersuit, and it was similarly dismissed due to lack of evidence. Both cases were defamation lawsuits - which means that each party had to prove definitively that the other party operated in ways that directly and deliberately harmed their business. Cause and effect, not so simple a thing to determine when it comes to revenues and reputation. Imo, it is no surprise that both parties lost the case. I think SM should have played it cool and not filed the countersuit to begin with, but as a matter of pride... meh. Not the best course of action, but I can see why they did it. :/

    As far as you wanting to just ask about bits and pieces you're particularly curious about, I see no harm in that. It's of course totally up to you how involved and interested you are in all this stuff. I mean, imo when it comes to the interwebs, it's pretty much always a good idea to do your own research about things you're particularly interested/curious about. While staying objective and cognizant of the fact that everyone and their mother can post anything online. But, obviously no one here is going to begrudge you asking questions! So... please feel free to ask away. :)

    Aaaand sidenote? I am ready for the boys to return. Good lawd am I ready. hehe. :D

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  41. http://news.nate.com/view/20120918n33284
    I do not read Korean but is the general concession that it has been post-poned indefinitely? Just checking or making sure.

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    1. Yes. The court postponed it indefinitely. There must be a reason why the court decided on this. But I'm really disappointed that there is still no verdict. Although I see that the court want both parties to settle this matter out of court, I think that the court should just give a verdict and end all of this. This trial has been going-on for such a long time. Anyway, let's just enjoy TVXQ's Korean comeback and anticipate their world tour. It's about time that our boys have their own world tour. They deserve only the best for their hard work and dedication to their fans.

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    2. Ah thank you:) sorry for the late reply and their Album! I have no words to express how awesomeeeeeeeeeeeeee it is! Lol. I can't wait for the live performances, so proud of them *sniff* Yay!

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  42. So happy to hear the success of their new album "CATCH ME!" But the other side (not want to mention them in name anymore) is at it again! Just when the news of TVXQ world tour is announce, those 3's fan is twitting everywhere about the boycott of their idols. One is for SBS for PARA games as if the game was the opening was center around their idol. Taking the emphasis away from the game, shame on them. Another for KBS not showing their idol in the red carpet in BUSAN international film festival. Did they forget already that their idol and company sued KBS for boycott (guess they have really short term memory). Please, can't they realized not everything revolve around their idols. GRR... just needed to get this off. Sorry everyone for the rant.

    Haven't heard from Precious for a long time, hope you doing ok. Drop us a line once in while. ^__^

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    1. Wow, I only heard about the Para Games thing. Remember, they only like to focus on the injustice their oppas are facing. Not to mention, they also like to bring in TVXQ into this and blaming SM for the meddling. So you can't really expect them to do anything different other than that.

      It's okay about ranting. Everyone needs to blow off some steam sometime LOL

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  43. hi, just finished reading your blog. It is so clear and you write so well. Just wonder, what you guys think about the lawsuit? and is it possible for JYJ + HoMin to reunite asgain? nowadays there are rumours about them to reunite again. Like JYJ's profile name has been added to TVXQ Profile

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    1. About the JYJ's profiles being added into the TVXQ profiles, I think it's because there was an SM album that came out at the time, something about the best songs the SM groups produced, something like that I don't remember very clearly. I think SM wanted to give credit to JYJ for their past work in TVXQ, not only them but Hangeng's profile was also added to Super Junior's profile too. Now about, Homin and JYJ reuniting.....I don't think that's possible. Obviously something broke the five of them apart to make things become how they are now.

      Yunho still does think of them as friends, but I don't think he trusts them that much anymore. He can forgive them easily, I mean he did forgive the person who poisoned him. He's a really nice guy. Changmin....He's the type not to forgive them easily, muchless give them back his trust. He seems to be the type to not give his trust back to those who did those kind of things to him.

      My whole opinion on the lawsuit. I just want it over with. It has been haunting Homin for two years now. It should have been over a long time ago. Personally I want SM to win. Both SM and TVXQ2 obviously showed that they could do well without JYJ around, there's just been news about their world tour tickets opening night have been sold out in three minutes after opening. SM released great groups like SNSD, Super Junior, SHINee, F(x) and EXO, after TVXQ debuted.

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    2. hmmm actually what happen if SMent win that lawsuit? my personal opinion actually i'm so sad, i want they comeback as 5. But after read this blog, i don't think :( and i also confused why they keep postpone the lawsuit, i mean that it should be end like around this year right. and the newest news from allkpop it has been postpone again until i don't know when. so sad :(

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  44. precious, where can i contact u like email? i have questions. though nothing major really.

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  45. Wow! It is finally over. No more lawsuit. Feel kinda surreal at the moment. Just really want to thank Precious for creating this blog. Guess your hard work is finally nearing at the end.

    Now the other side cannot blame SM or makeup injunction excuses if they don't get invited on TV programs(variety/music) as welcome as they think. Finally freedom & a welcome relief for Yunho and Changmin (well in Korea anyway...then again there's Japan lawsuit with AVEX)

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  46. Precious its over. We still haven't got all the details that led to the decision on both sides withdrawing their lawsuits but I'm sure over the next few days some information will start to trickle over. Hope to hear what you think about the end of this lawsuit Precious.

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  47. aaah... precious... closing statement please.. kkkkk

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  48. Yeah it's finally over, a nice outcome though I wish them to do this kind agreement and settlement in the first place rather than suing each other because I think the one who win from this lawsuit is only the lawyer actually.

    @123Ueki
    Yes, I hope the other side won't blame SM again if TV station, variety shows or music shows still don't invite them to their shows; it's their right if they don't want to invite JYJ to their shows anyway. Now Cjes should find other name for JYJ fanbase because Cassiopeia / Bigeast and pearl red colour are exclusively only for TVXQ.

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    1. Finally its over....It's good to hear that this outcome wouldn't have too much repercussion as it would have, if it went to either one of the sides.

      @123Ueki & fc
      I agree with you guys about the TV stations thing. Over at AKP, there's a whole lot of people getting all excited about the chance of them seeing JYJ perform on a music show without SM "cockblocking" them. I especially agree with you about the fanclub idea. Many people would argue with it, but it's official. JYJ is no longer a part of TVXQ and that's that.

      Precious, what do you think about all of this? Hope to hear from you soon (:

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  50. Hi Precious

    Thank you for your hard work on this blog.
    I would like to ask you can I translate the information in this blog to another language?
    I want to spread the truth in my language.
    Please kindly allow me .

    Thank you and best regard

    Tasz

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  51. yep the lawsuit is over!!!

    my only wish now is that jyj fans would just focus on their own idols...

    we should all move forward and continue our support for tvxq.

    sometimes the truth is hard to swallow so time could really help.

    i only felt a pang of pity to those who are hoping for the 5 to be one again. i know that hope is hardest to kill... maybe i can empathize.

    to me my hope is for TVXQ (HoMin that is) would continue to stand tall and shine brighter... one positive thing that all the events that happened is that i love yunho much much more and i learned to appreciate changmin and see his beauty too (before i am almost a pure yunho biased).

    i also hope that if personal issues could be resolved quietly that they would do so. i doubt relationships like they have before would be the same but closure is important as to not have regrets in the future...

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    1. hi klea,

      im sorry but why should " jyj fans would just focus on their own idols" i dont understand it...because before being a jyj fan i am a TVXQ(the 5) fan. why cant they be together again? just because things dont seem like that right now, we dont know what tomorrow will bring...right?

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    2. Because actually most JYJ fans (sorry for generalising >.<) always bash TVXQ and cassies. They go to TVXQ's articles and videos to leave comments about JYJ which always blew up into a huge fight -_- .

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    3. Sorry, but I think there are equal amounts of JYJ and HoMin bashers, and some of them even pretend to be a fan of the other group just to spread hate (e.g. a fan says "HoMin are traitors" when fact is said fan is a TVXQ HoMin shipper, she says that to anger other HoMin fans and defend HoMin against "JYJ fan"). There's so much hatred and rivalry between the DB5K members that sometimes one can't help but think they HAVE to choose a side. FYI, MOST JYJ/ HM/ DBSK fans are mature, intelligent, articulate and open-minded. Those you see spreading hate and trolling around the interwebs are probably a bunch of 13-15 year old girls who are hell-bent on proving that one side is better than the other and that one side is the one at fault. I'm a DBSK fan through and through, I admit that I follow JYJ activities more since I like Xiah Junsu the best out of all 5, but that doesn't mean I hate or even dislike HoMin and the other 2 JYJ members. I'm mature enough to not spread all this hate and rivalry. No matter how eloquently put or how "informative" "facts" are said, some JYJ/HM fans will feel offended because some of them are 1) immature 2) overprotective 3) bashers 4) trolls. The best thing to do is to read whatever information is available, keep an open mind, DON'T BELIEVE everything that is written just because it says it's from a "reliable source" or it is "official". Unless and until you see a LEGAL document with signature and seals and you are 100% sure it is legitimate that you are 100% certain you could STAKE your life in its validity, NEVER put 100% of your trust in it. I know better than to comment on anything regarding this issue because I am not directly involved and I only know second-hand accounts of events. The best thing to do is to support your artist and IGNORE bashers/ troll, and NEVER be one.

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  52. Gosh, I just read some comments from a jyj site and I felt really sick and upset reading true. The comments are like calling Yunho a liar and etc... :( Thank god this blog exist to at least allow some light to cassies ^^

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  53. The lies that this site is spreading...i can't believe that there are people willing to believe ,,the truth'' that comes from here! I'm horrified!

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  54. Yet you haven't pinpointed what exact lies are being spread. Are the lies about the cosmetics business, the 6.25 meeting, the contract, the lawsuit, tvxq and their father's statements? What lies are being spread here exactly?

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