Junsu's father starts to voice his opinions [File 4 @ 8:44]. After throwing all the blames towards HoMin and SM, he tells the fans that he does not want them to write posts like the other side, again subtly mentioning that HoMin's side is spreading the rumors, but then he throws hints that it's possible to write about the meeting if personally inclined.
"It’s possible that there are people who write something at personal level because they really don’t like seeing those (rumors), but on the home pages, (we don’t want it)"
Then [File 5 @ 2:35] Jaejoong's sister suggests that they need to "defend" the rumors. People starts to discuss about their actions, and after some discussions, Jaejoong's sister gives out specific requests. [File 5 @ 3:42] She's basically telling the fans to spread the rumors discreetly, but not officially.
"Then, since each of you guys are administrators of fan sites, don't put up on the home pages because if those are put up on the home pages, it may be, you know, for the administrators, so doing it through personal blogs (laugh) or such routes …"
After Jaejoong's sister, Yuchun's mother gives out more detailed directive. [File 5 @ 4:39] She tells the fans exactly what needs to be posted. At that point, fans were already told many times that HoMin are staying with SM because they got individual offers from SM, and Yunchun's mother wants them to write why CJS are not taking HoMin with them. Anyone can guess what that means.
"In this situation, this is what I think we should do. We need to say the 5 needs to get together, need to say things like why we are not taking Yunho and Changmin with us, I think we'll get better response if we say those. If we don't show the truth this way, that will lead to (???) from what you want. Need to worry for Yunho and Changmin so the 5 can continue together, which is true. You know that’s how it is. Yuchun exists because TVXQ is here, so I think that is better."
Finally, Junsu's father puts a last nail in the coffin with this statement. [File 5 @ 5:20]
"Do it wisely."
The purpose of the 6.25 meeting was to dispel rumors, but now the fans are asked to spread the rumors created from the meeting. The only supposed rumor they discussed that was significant was about Crebeau not having anything to do with the breakup. HoMin's betrayal, contract, SM dividing the group were all new information told by the parents, and the breakup was confirmed in the meeting, again by the parents of CJS. For the fans of CJS, those new information was the "truth" CJS asked their parents to tell the fans.
After the meeting, the fans in the meeting went into action. They started spreading the new "truth" actively.
Here's a screenshot of how they spread the rumors. Notice the date and time (June 26, 09, 2:03)
Here's the translation of the post and replies. The transcript in Korean is on the bottom of this post.
I went to Kangnam Baptist church today. (6.25 meeting was held in a church)
I'm in shock, and I'm writing all over the place, can't even type. I'll just tell you straight out.
I think it is true that the kids wanted to leave SM for some time.
It's not to break up the group. They want to stay as TVXQ together independently. It's either to gain stronger voice within the company, or if that doesn't work, they decided to leave the company and create a company or change the company. What's important here is the decision was under the condition the group was not to be broken up, and for the 5 to be together.
I don't think this was decided recently, and it looks like it was planned and discussed for a long time.
Instead of providing better activities and situation, SM made the kids work like robots, didn't even pay them enough for the work, and ignored activities and musical directions the kids wanted, using the kids like machines. (For example, the song selections for the Mirotic concert was solely decided by SM and the kids' opinions were ignored)
Anyways, the power struggles between the kids and SM became obvious since the beginning of the year, and the kids started to stand against the company and expressed strong opinions unlike before.
They are boycotting schedules and commercials, and they are boycotting SM concert and the summer album, and now those activities are becoming uncertain.
Anyways, there were troubles and disagreements with the company, but they were united tightly as 5. SM must have changed their strategy, and I think SM started to come between the members.
Another poster described the process already below.
SM only contacted Yunho, and gave him Evisu commercial and a starring role in a drama to lure him to stay in SM.
And Yunho accepted it.
Right now everyone talks about Crebeau, but the reason the kids are involved in Crebeau is to gain financial freedom so they can control TVXQ's easier, to escape from the company's control, and to stay as TVXQ forever.
But suddenly, Crebeau is used as a reason for the breakup, which is ridiculous and absurd.
The Crebeau business was offered to all 5, but Yunho did not accept it from the start.
The kids even offered to quit Crebeau if that was what's causing issues, but it looks like Yunho made up his mind already.
Even though Crebeau has nothing to do with it, rumors about the kids getting greedy for money because of Crebeau and wanting to break TVXQ started to float around the blogs and forums rapidly. Honestly, isn't it ridiculous? That's why the family of 3 gathered the fans to tell what's been happening.
I heard that the kids are really suffering, and it's hard to look at them. I heard Jaejoong kept telling his sister that he wants to die.
They want to stay as TVXQ if they only had 1% of possibility. It means they don't want to break the team. Whatever they do, they want to work as TVXQ of 5.
Replies (41) * Koreans use ㅋㅋㅋ (laughing) and ㅠㅠㅠ (tears flowing) a lot
Yunho made up his mind...ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠThanks. I wanna meet you separately. Oh I'd like to meet you with other TVXQ fans.
This is another one of those that says Yunho's a traitor..ㅠㅠ I'm confused what is the truth...It's frustrating...
It feels like my heart's getting ripped hearing Jaejoong wants to die...Which administrators met today?
Really, Crebeau doesn't make sense.- What doens't make sense? I get it myself.
- I'm talking about Crebeau kids doing solo.
- I think she's talking about Yunho
- Yeah right. wanting to do solo in Japan... the kids are not fools;;
Oh Yunho- Yunho... really....
- Yunho ㅋㅋㅋ ...... really, you ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ....
It's not out of the blue. It's real. Sorry people. But the story about the breakup is really true. I'm really nervous, I'm gonna die. Admins of Changmin and Yunho already met a while ago, and Yunchun, Jaejoong, and Junsu's admins had a meeting today.- But why are the admins meeting? I don't even want to believe it, but why the admins are meeting for
something like this... geez
- Not Changmin, but Yunho's admins and his dad already met a while ago. They talked about
influencing fan's opinions with Crebeau. It's disappointing, really.
- Huh, it may be really true. Geez, it's driving me nuts..
- Wow ㄷ ㄷ ㄷ ㄷ ㄷ ㄷ ㄷ ㄷ
- Don't you know that SM gathers fan site admins whenever there's talk of a breakup? SM had a
meeting when the 4th album was out saying they don't know what's going to happen if that album
doesn't do well. Admins always hold a meeting when something like this happen. And parents (+)
This time it wasn't SM. Anyways think of the admins as Fan club presidents. That's why they getting
- Influencing opinion is laughable. It just looks like fan wars about rumors between individual fans
- No, this meeting was not by SM. Sooman is just drinking stupid wine --;
- I heard that too ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ
But from what I heard, that wasn't the problem with Yunho.... It wasn't the drama. It was something else... I can't tell you right now in this situation.. Anyways, that drama seems to be going in a direction of canceling. He was leaning towards rejecting it when the role was offered.
It's because of who's taking the responsibility of the breakup. Yunho's side already spread rumors about Crebeau, so Jaejoong's sister must've felt urgent.
Few hours after the meeting, posts like the above started popping up in various forums. You can see the post includes what was talked about in the meeting, but then the poster manages to add a few more twists of her own. It looks like she knew what needed to be done, getting creative with the post and doing more than what was asked. Notice "And Yunho accepted it" was written all by itself to emphasize Yunho was the one who took SM's bait. This is just one example of how the rumors started to spread. I'll be posting a couple more examples of how the participants of the meeting spread the rumors systematically in my next post.
Here's the Korean transcript of the screenshot for the readers to test your favorite translator.
소행 오늘 강남 침례 교회에 다녀왔소.
지금 너무 충격이라 무챡 횡설수설 하고 글도 안써지오 그냥 대놓고 말하겠소.
애들이 예전부터 에셈을 함께 나오고자 한것은 맞는거 같소
해체를 한다는 소리가 아니라 자기들끼리 동방신기로서 쭈욱 자립적으로 서고자
다섯명이 모두 뭉쳐서 기획사 내에서 좀더 목소리를 낼 수 있는 위치를 확보하거나
그게 안되면 기획사를 나와서 기획사를 차리는쪽? 혹은 기획사를 옮기는 쪽으로
가닥을 잡고 여기에 중요한것은 절대로 해체가 아닌 동방신기 5명은 함께 한다는 전제였소.
이건 근자에 결정한게 아니라 자기들 끼리 꽤 오래동안 계획하고 논의한 일이었던거 같소.
에셈은 동방신기에게 좀더 나은 활동과 상황을 만들어 주지는 못할망정 애들을 로봇같이
돌리고 그에 상응하는 금전적인 피드백도 없고 애들이 하고 싶어 하는 활동이나 음악적인
방향을 묵살하고 오로지 기계처럼 애들을 '이용' 했다오. (한 예로 이번 미로콘 리스트도
애들의 의견이 묵살된 에셈의 일방적인 셀렉팅이었다 하오)
아무튼 애들과 에셈의 기싸움이 올해 초 부터 좀 노골적으로 있어왔꼬
애들도 전에 없이 강하게 의견을 피력하면서 기획사에 맞섰소. 들어오는 스케줄과 광고를 보이콧 하고
가까운 에셈콘이나 여름앨범도 모조리 보이콧 하고 있어서 이것도 지금
무튼 의견조율이 안되고 회사랑 좀 트러블이 많은 상황에서 다섯이서 똘똘 뭉쳐 있다가
에셈이 방향을 틀었는지 멤버들 이간질을 시작한거 같소..
그 과정은 아래 어느 햏이 써놓으신 바요.
윤호에게만 컨택을 해서 에비수를 단독 광고로 주고 드라마 주연으로 발탁 해줄터이니 너는 에셈에
남아라고 회유를 했다 하오..
그리고 윤호는 그것을 수락 했소.
지금 끄레뷰가 며칠 사이 화두로 떠올랐는데 애들이 처음에 끄레뷰를 하는 이유가
경제적인 자립성이 생기면 동방신기를 자신들이 원하는 방향의 활동으로 움직이기가 더욱 수월할 것이고
나아가 회사에 휘둘리지 않고 영원히 동방신기로서 함께 하기 위해서 였다오.
근데 갑자기 이 끄레뷰가 애들의 해체 이유로 대두 되는 상황이 참 기가 차기 그지 없고 안타깝소.
끄레뷰 사업 제의는 애들에게 다 들어 왔지만 윤호는 거절을 애초에 거절을 했었소.
일이 이렇게 되고 나서 혹시나 애들이 끄레뷰 때문에 껄끄러운것이라면 끄레뷰도 접겠다고 했으나
윤호는 이미 마음을 굳힌듯 싶소.
이렇게 끄레뷰와는 아무상관도 없는 상황에서 일주일 전부터 갑자기 끄레뷰 때문에
끄레뷰 애들이 끄레뷰 사업 욕심이 지나쳐서 동방 해체를 원한다는 소문이 블로그 와 펑 들으로
급하게 소문이 퍼져나가기 시작했소.
솔직히 기가 차지 않겠소? 그래서 지금 세사람의 가족들이 팬들을 모아놓고
그간의 상황들을 전한것이라오.
지금 애들이 너무 힘들어 해서 옆에서 보기조차 안스럽다 하오.
재중이는 계속 누님에게 죽고싶다고 한숨처럼 그소리만 한다 하오..
단 1%의 가능성이 있어도 동방신기로 함께 하고 싶어 한다 하오.
팀을 깨고 싶어 하는게 아니란 소리요. 어떤 활동을 하던지 동방신기 다섯이
함께 활동을 하고 싶어 한다 하오.
윤호가 마음을 굳혀...ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ
햏 일단 잘 읽었소.. 햏이랑 따로 만났음좋겠소. 아 정말 햏 동덕들이랑 같이 만났음 좋겠소
이말은 또 윤호가 배신자 얘기잖소..ㅠㅠ 뭐가 진실인지 혼란스럽소..
아 햏 진리 일순윈데 막막하오......
재중이가 죽고싶다고 한다니까 마음이 찢어질꺼 같구려.....
오늘 모인 마스터들이 어디 마스터햏들이오 근데?
솔직히 끄레뷰애들 말은 안되오 진짜;;
- 어떤게 말이 안된다는 말이오? 햏은 이해 되는데
- 끄레뷰애들이 솔로한다는 얘기가 말이안된단 얘기오..
- 아까 윤호쪽 얘기를 말씀하시는거 같소
- 아아 그렇지라.. 일본에서 솔로 하고 싶어 한다니..무슨 애들이 바보도 아니고;;
- 윤호 ㅋㅋㅋ ...... 너진짜 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ.....
영 말없는 얘기아니오. 사실이오. 햏들 미안하오. 근데 지금 해체 얘기나오는건 진짜 사실이오. 햏 간떨려 죽겠소.
창민이윤호 마스터들은 이미 예전에 모였고. 오늘 유천재중준수 마스터들 모임갖었소
- 근데 마스터들이 왜 모이오? 믿고 싶지도 않지만 이런 일로 왜 마스터들이 모이는지 참
- 창민은 아니고 윤호 마스터들이랑 윤호아빠가 훨씬 전부터 만나고 있었더이다. 거기서 끄레뷰 얘기 물타라고 나
왔소. 실망이오 완전.
- 엄머 사실인가봐.... 아놔 미치겠네
- 헐 ㄷ ㄷ ㄷ ㄷ ㄷ ㄷ ㄷ ㄷ ㄷ ㄷ ㄷ ㄷ
- 원래 해체얘기나올때마다 에셈에서 팬페이지 마스터들 모으는거 모르시오? 저번 4집 활동전에도 에셈에서 결집
시켰었소. 이번 활동 잘 안되면 어떻게 될지 모른다고. 원래 이런 일 있을때마다 마스터들 모임 갖소. 부모님들
까지 (+) 이번엔 에셈에선 모은건 아니지만 어쨌든 팬페이지 마스터햏들이 예전 팬클럽 회장쯥 생각하면 되오.
그러니까 모인단 소리요
- 물타니 뭐니 진짜 웃기시오.. 그저 개인팬들 간의 루머 다툼으로 밖에 안보이오
- 에셈에서 모은게 아니라니까 햏. 수만이는 와인이나 쳐마시고 있소 --;
- 햏도 이 이야기 들었소 ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ
근데 햏.. 내가들은건 윤호가 저문제가 아니었쉬..........윤호가 드라마때문에가 아니라, 좀 다른 문제였소...
햏도들은 이야기라 이상황에서 말은 못하겠지만..하튼 좀 저 드라마는 좀 퉁친 분위기로 가는거 같았소 거절쪽에
가까운 이야기였던거같소 캐스팅 들어왔을때부터
지금 이 얘기나오는게 왜 그렇냐면 해체책임론때문에 그렇소. 얼마전에 윤호쪽에서 먼저 끄레뷰가지고 루머퍼트렸
고. 아마 그래서 재중이 누나햏이 급했던 모양이오.