Now it's time to talk about the most controversial subject from this crisis, the 6.25 voice file (meeting/gathering).
The readers probably saw different interpretations of that meeting, but they were probably all partial interpretation, or just explanation of what it is.
So here's is the full translation of the 6.25 voice file. This is the full version without any editing. I will analyze about the meeting in my future posts, but for now, read the translations and decide for yourself what that meeting was about. The translation is pure translation without my opinion.
The meeting was held on June 25, 2009 by Junsu's father, Yuchun's mother, Jaejoong's sister, and the administrators and web masters of CJS's fan sites.
Note that I put time stamps on the translations for reference, and I'll most likely refer back to them on my future posts.
The actual file is a bit over 55 minutes, but it will probably take around 15 minutes to read. I've spent hours transcribing and translating it, so please read it through. You may want to read it a few times.
There were some parts I couldn't hear, and those are marked with "(???)", and I also put some explanation to clarify some sentences, and those are in parenthesis.
Some parts of the conversation will make you wonder what the speaker is talking about because there are sudden change of subjects within the conversation, but that's just how it went which is actually pretty natural in those type of meetings.
I suggest you to download the files and listen to them to get the feel of how the meeting went. You can also compare the original recording and the Korean transcript I posted already, then check the accuracy of my translation if you have a Korean friend.
Here's the transcript in Korean:
* Warning: There's a sharp noise in the first file around 2:32 mark, and if you listen to the file over earplugs, it will hurt your ears so watch out. Don't ask me how I know.
Here are the links to download the files. Right click on the link and save them on your computer.
6.25 voice file #1
6.25 voice file #2
6.25 voice file #3
6.25 voice file #4
6.25 voice file #5
6.25 voice file #6
Here's the translation. Now the readers should know why it took me a week to post this. :)
This is Junsu’s Dad.
Many of you were probably busy and surprised for getting such a short notice.
Simply said, we think ChunJaeSu (laughter)
Things were suddenly turning serious for the last several days, and ChunJaeSu were asking some things because they’ve been hearing stuff in Japan through texts and other means.
I’ve heard some stuff too, but didn’t think too seriously, but the kids started to worry a lot because some things they’ve been hearing were getting strange.
So finally, the parents were contacted from Japan, and we were asked to at least tell you as much truth as there is, enough to avoid distortion of the truth, and because the administrators of Chunjaesu’s fan sites (café) and home page may be disappointed later (if we didn't).
So we quickly talked to Yuchun’s mother this morning because we figured it would be convenient to meet around Seoul, and she provided this place from 7 to 8. We should have served some food (meet in a restaurant), but we thought there were many people coming and there wouldn’t be any place available. We’re thankful that we met in this big space. Anyways, we are sorry for it.
You liked Chunjaesu and TVXQ, and it must have felt like getting hit by a bolt of lightning.
The children (ChunJaeSu) had a lot of worries as they have been doing activities for 7 years, and considering the contract and stuff, of course I understand it partly. You probably know a lot about it. So the parents could see those (worries) when the kids were talking, and as parents, we felt bad about them so...
There’s probably this rumor. "Junsu’s dad is leading to do such and such", but I have no intention to do so, and I only think of Xiah Junsu within TVXQ, and didn’t think about Xiah Junsu separately. If you’ve heard such stories around, please dispel those misunderstandings.
Other members are probably the same.
The kids lived like real brothers for 8 to 10 years, and they probably had same thoughts whenever they faced problems or went through pain.
But after 7 or 8 years, something's feeling uneasy.
When you say the kids are crazy about money, we don’t have anything to say as parents, but I think the money is secondary. The kids had some disappointments that were building up which lead to (?), so they proposed (change) to SM.
After the proposal, there was nothing, nothing, then (proposals were) ignored and ignored, then the dates passed without any solution and things kept getting buried and so forth, so the complaints from the kids kept coming out. The parents saw these things happen between the kids, so we were trying to make things better... I don't know.
Anyways, maybe it’s a wrong thing to say, but I called the CEO King Young Min because of some issues, and asked him to meet the parents because of the problems kids are having.
I think Kim was the CEO for 3 or 4 years? And that was the first time I called him.
I didn’t have any connection to talk to SM, didn’t know what to say, and whenever some things happened, I always contacted them through the manager. I knew the difficulties the kids were having, so I called president Kim Young Min asking to meet the parents, and the date was set to June 6.
On June 6th, Yuchun's mother, Jaejoong's father, myself, Yunho’s father and Changmin’s father had a meeting together, and I collected the kids’ opinions and conveyed them (to the meeting participants).
They were conveyed, and we also talked about many other issues. I felt that some parents had same thoughts, and others had different thoughts.
Since June 6th until today, the parents kept making suggestions, but whenever those were brought up, (SM) only tried to separate the kids, so the kids were having a hard time, but they still worked hard because of schedules. Yes, members’ and the parents’ thoughts can be different.
But when the kids heard the recent rumors saying, “some things are like this and that, someone’s like this and that”, the kids asked us early this morning to get together like this, and asked us to talk (about the rumors).
Well, we really cannot tell you detailed inside stories in this gathering. Right now, the group happened to split into 3:2, and I’m sure everyone including us and ChunJaeSu agrees that there’s nothing good to be gained if this (3:2 split) gets spread around. Everybody is all concerned about these rumors and gossips spreading around because we’re waiting for SM’s response to the suggestions we raised.
That’s why you are all here, but don’t think about it too seriously.
Here are my thoughts. You’re not being asked to fight and dispel those rumors for ChunJaeSu, absolutely not. Don’t do that. It’s just that there’s just this situation panning out. Anyways, we don’t know what the result is going to be between SM and TVXQ. We don’t know if 5 will be 1, 2 members, 3 members or 4 members, but right now, they just happened to split into 3:2.
So I think, (Yuchun’s) mother and (Jaejoong’s) sister have a lot to talk about, and also, we don’t know how this will pan out, but ChunJaeSu is gaining strength because of you guys, we don’t know what this situation will pan out to, don’t know if it will take 1 month or 2 months. Anyways, TVXQ is working hard for the existing schedules.
They’re practicing for the concert in Thailand, and we are trying to proceed quietly. Some of those rumors may be right, some may be wrong, but we thought there were so many strange rumors floating around, and I am also having a hard time myself.
They say that I instigated the kids to do this and do that, but I absolutely did not do that. It was the members who had discussions after discussions, and they are split as a result of their own discussions.
Frankly, kids also asked us to tell you this.
All 5 had an agreement to leave (SM). It reversed in one hour in Japan. I was concerned about Junsu, but then he called me and said, “Dad, we reached an agreement, if things don’t get resolved, we’ll all leave together.” So I thought the two really helped, but something happened after one hour, and the two decided to stay and the three (?), but (I told Junsu) it was ok, it was their and their parents’ decision.
If anything bad happens in the future, I ask you to understand.
ChunJaeSu, and I’m sure the other side is the same, they’re not thinking about breaking up if they can help it.
Somehow the opinions are divided into 3:2, but we are trying to do something about it if there’s even 1% of hope. It’s not the problem with them (HoMin and their parents). It’s not the problem with the members. TVXQ, specifically ChunJaeSu are clashing with SM because they have made suggestions, and because their suggestions are right.
We got some legal advice and got some result, and we’ll try to get this pointed to right direction. Just believe 10% of the rumors, and consider the 90% to be lies.
Thank you for your support. (Jaejoong’s) sister and Yuchun’s mother have things to say, so I will stop here, and if I remember...
(End of file 1)
(noise and talking)
Well, if you have anything you are curious about, I'll take some questions.
Everyone here knows everything, and we're not going to add anything with lies, and if things get escalated afterwards, we'd just proceed with what we've talked about today, so if you have anything curious...
We want to hear others talk. Yuchun's mother?
Hello, this is Yuchun's mon.
It wasn't easy for me to be here.
We prepared this meeting, but I am very cautious because there’s going to be a lot of talking, and maybe it could be thought that we are holding this meeting for some (???) purpose.
What Yuchun said until the end is that he is very upset.
He still cherishes 5 members, wasn’t thinking about ending, and he was just watching the situation without saying anything. He was frustrated because people were talking real nonsense back and forth. I am here because he wanted me to say a word (for him) if I could, for the truth, and because the truth always wins.
To tell you the result, I cannot even dare to imagine. I’m sure our friends here are the same, but it just cannot happen, and we all know how shocking it would be. Really the only thing I can say here is that it’s really cautious. One word, one conduct is cautious, and I hope the friends can have trust until the end just like you value (him).
As said already, ChunJaeSu is trying. A lot.
They are trying while holding back the words they want to say, so please watch them, and whatever happens, the we’ll know the 100% truth sometimes. I ask you to watch them. Thank you.
Oh, also the people here have (??) think the same thing.
Hello, this is Jaejoong's sister.
Basically, we agree to everything Junsu's father and Yuchun's mother just said.
And then, what the kids were really curious about is, as talked about already, Jaejoong, Yuchun, Junsu, Yunho, and Changmin’s sides are all split, and that’s how it is right now. If we were to explain this situation, let’s see, it was SM that first…
You know about the concert in Japan, don’t you? And you also know there’s a lot of profit from that, right? But (profit) that’s for the kids is 9:1, and the small 1 goes to the 5 kids. That’s the first reason. But it wasn’t because of the money. At first, they suggested SM many things, expressed opinions on what they wanted to do, but SM didn’t accept anything from the 5 kids no matter what.
The reason was because the kids signed the 13-year contract, and SM was saying the kids only needed to do what SM told them to do, and SM just needed to tell them what to do during that 13-year contract period. So after 5 years, 4 years, and 6 years have passed, the kids were having a hard time, so 5 of them got together in Japan.
This is what they talked about after getting together. They talked about how they worked 6 years for the company, they’re one like before, TVXQ will serve in the military together, and they will absolutely continue as one even after the breakup. All 5 made an agreement right away (to work together) after everyone expressed their thoughts in that gathering.
So they were all agreeing, and the parents were contacted about that, but after one hour, the two contacted us right away to say that they could not do it. So Jaejong, Yuchun, and Changmin (laughter) I mean Junsu…
Anyways, so we said we’re all together in this and asked them why they are doing this. (change their mind) Well, I will tell you everything.
(Yuchun's) mother and (Junsu's) father want to talk about it, but they're not (so I’ll tell you). First, we heard that SM is dividing them because of Crebeau. SM was planning it (dividing the group) since April, but honestly, there wasn’t even a word that Jaejoong would do Crebeau in April.
But since April, I’m not going to say whom, they got somebody a commercial deal, got a drama, and did all that while the others had no knowledge of them. It was SM who did that first.
That’s why the kids talked about all 5 staying as one without splitting because they knew about it (SM trying to divide the group).
It was agreed that if they leave, they’d leave together, or if they stay, they’d stay together, but right now the two are split.
But as you all know, Changmin and Yunho are not involved in Crebeau Cosmetics, and to avoid getting criticized (for the breakup), SM is continuously blurting out that the 3 and 2 are separating because of the cosmetics, but it really has nothing to do with it.
The kids even said they’d quit Crebeau in that case. Even after that, the five are saying some are staying, and some won’t do it. It’s like this right now.
So even though Crebeau has nothing to do this, the 3 became the culprit because of SM spreading rumors that way.
Anyways, so since TVXQ is popular, we thought it would be good to do it together, and we didn’t want the news of the breakup to come out. As you all know, they even cried during the concert because it was so hard, and I think they are not even talking to each other. I think that’s how they are the way I see them.
The way I see it, the 5 members are 5 on the outside, but they are split on the inside. Just like Junsu’s father said, the kids suggested many times that it would be better for all 5 to come out together, better to be together, but those kids (HoMin) kept saying they can’t do it and won’t do it, so only the 3 are having a hard time right now.
I don’t know about the other two. I don’t know what SM did to grab the two, but for the 3, I even heard that SM told the 3 to get out because of the cosmetics, don’t care that they (SM) did something, and don’t care about anything but to leave because of the cosmetics.
To us, we’d rather have 5 to be together and all to be good together, but as you know, some rumors are true. It is true.
But, don’t believe everything. Just in case, if 5 become 3 or 4, well, the result will probably come out around next year. That’s what I think. They are working together because they still have some events, but it looks like they’re completely dividing next year, and it looks like SM is preparing to do it that way.
[End of File 2]
Then I'll tell you just in case. If Yunho and Changmin stays with SM and Jaejoong, Junsu and Yuchun come out, I mean leave SM, the 3 cannot work in Korea.
SM already took such measures, so if the 3 get out, they're thinking about only working in Japan, they're even thinking to do it that way.
But (whispering) anyways, in Japan, they have identified the rumors about SM, but we don't know exactly who and where we can join hands in Japan.
What I’d like to tell you is that it’s not us who wanted to have this meeting. Some parents already had a meeting like this and caused the 3 to be criticized. Because of that (meeting) all the blames are pointed towards the 3. The kids are really having a hard time, and it was so hard that they even said they could die.
So I hope you would know the truth. The 3 are really truthful.
That’s what Jaejoong asked me. He doesn’t need anything else said, but just tell the truth. I’m sure Yuchun and Junsu were asking the same, tell the truth. When you hear the rumors after rumors, you may not know what the real truth is, but to the 3, the truth is same as what the fans love, and that is the kids’ wish for the 5 to unite and become one.
For now, I ask you to just watch them.
It’s been said that the administrators of the two member’s fan sites are getting together, and it probably caused many changes to us.
Well, to give an example, because of some people, people say things like, “What’s Jaejoong so special in Japan? Yunho’s the leader in Korea.” or in case of Yuchun, for example… they bash like that. We keep hearing distorted words that are not truth, and even our families are having such a hard time and it makes me wonder how hard the three members are right now when they cannot even say anything.
So our wish is that the fans will support the 3, I mean 2, 5, give them a lot of support, then they’ll be greatly encouraged, for now.
Anyways, do you have any questions?
Q: Is it really 9 to 1?
A: Yes, it’s 9 to 1. We were really surprised when we saw that contract.
I’ll tell you what little we know. This may be misunderstood depending on the person, but we do not know about the Japanese contract. TVXQ boys don’t have contract for Japan, don’t know what the term is or when it ends. Because the kids had some plans, they needed to know when the contract ends so they know when they would renew the contract, so they asked about it because they were curious, but they didn’t see it.
I asked Junsu when it would end. Why? So we don’t affect Avex in bad way.
He told me March or April. Then I asked him if he signed it, and he said no. Did you see it? No, didn’t see it. He said he didn’t see anything.
It’s possible that the kid’s request was looked as out of line. (SM may think that) They should just do what they were told to do, and things like that. There are few more issues like that.
If you hear about it, you may take pity or disappointed, so it’s not comfortable to talk about it here. Anyway, if TVXQ splits to 3 and 2, the 3 carried forward some legal processes against SM. That’s why we are really being careful, careful and careful, and there’s still schedule to…
There’s nothing good to gain from the rumors. The babies (teen fans) don’t know anything right now. When I received some texts, it’s clear they don’t know anything. (example of a text) “I’m taking a test, please say hwaiting.” (laughing). I thought it was really fortunate (that some fans don’t know about the rumors), but at some point, (rumors were) spreading among the fans in twenties and thirties, and when we receive feedback from them, it won’t be easy to tell them if it’s true or not. If we tell them it’s not, then we may end up being in the same situation as Moon Heejoon or Kangta. I can’t even sleep because of this.
This wasn’t our intention, but don’t know why the situation is turning like this. I know you don’t have time but came here, and we are really sorry and regretful that you are hearing these from us.
So I think even if the result turns out that way, please support so both sides to succeed. If it works out, great, but if it doesn't then do that (support both sides), Just like before, don't criticize the people leaving or the people staying, and help them succeed, then I think I'd appreciate that.
Q. Is there any chance for the boys to stay with SM?
A. Uh well, there are many things. It's not easy for me to say… Gosh.
Q. (Some questions about the length of the contract)
A. 13 years?
As you all know it, even the common sense tells that something needs to be changed for fairness of the contracts, but the kids’ (contract) didn't change.
Fan: What if the boys (???) ?
A. What if we didn't receive any up front guaranteed payment? What about it? (fans whispering: didn't get any guaranteed payment? Ridiculous. Crazy..)
If you guys find out, it would be too frustrating (for you). Like (Yuchun’s) mother and (Jaejoong’s) sister talked about just now, we don’t know how this will turn out. We don’t want to get into a situation where the members need to clarify things. Maybe they will answer your questions, or things may not work out depending on the situation. We don’t know how it’s going to pan out. When you hear about it one by one here…
(Fan’s question. asking about 13-year term)
They were a bit different, but we set it the same before debut.
The 13-year term itself is not bad. Let’s consider that it's ok. It’s not bad, but even when we work for a year, we go up to manager level. So the kids too, when they did (???), should’ve been changed from the beginning, but since it kept coming back as an empty echo, kids were talking about how they were hurt and stuff. Of course since they are young, maybe they overreacted, but when the adults heard about it, we didn’t think it was right, so we told them to gather opinions.
The three said they don't like current situation so (???). One of the father has a public occupation (teacher), and a mother does...
It may appear that I took the bullet and stirring the pot (laughter)
It’s for my children, if the kids gather their thoughts there may be a solution or maybe not.
I don't know everything, but I'm telling you as much as I know. I asked (SM) about it, and told the kids afterwards, but that may cause the kids to be at a disadvantage.
There could be many scenarios, but I think there's no need to worry too much.
Q. But all 5 signed the contract under the same conditions when they made the deal in the beginning, the 13 years.
Q. But was the contract kept exactly the same until now without extending the terms or changing anything and such?
Q. If that's the case, are Yunho and Changming signing an additional contract while keeping the same contract?
A. Well, now, we don't know if things will change or not, and it depends on the situation, but I guess they are happy with the current condition.
I don't know yet if they are just accepting those problems and staying. We think staying as 5 is the best possible combination as long as there remains 1% of hope.
Q. So they didn’t raise these issues because of renewing the contract, but it was because of individual activities, in other words, you requested SM to change the distribution of the profits but (the requests) weren’t accepted, is that so?
A. Profit and money is not the first problem. That could be one reason, but it's not because the kids got greedy for money. There are a few other things.
Contract terms are too much for the kids, if you consider military service, 13 years adds up to almost 15,16 years. Then they need to work like Janis, maybe like SMAP? Kids could consider that to be a problem, and there are other reasons... Whew, if you find out everything it's really... there are few reasons, few.
SM could change their mind and modify or improve it after we deal with SM, and if SM doesn’t (change), kids have other ideas so..
All the parents and sisters are all thinking the same. Jaejoong's father was hurrying to come here, but he works until 6, and because we use (this place) from 7 till 8.
Even for some ugly words floating around, I hope the administrators won't do the same even if it’s frustrating for you. There's nothing good to gain from acting same way. If the people here can tell the people who are close to them on their own, then that’s ok. If you wait patiently, we intend to try our best to turn this around for the better.
Q. Sir, Avex and SM (???), do they have part of the contract separate? Tohoshinki itself...
A. I would tell you what it’s like if the kids or I saw the contract, but we don't know. If I give a wrong answer, then (people) may say I lied. So it's going to be difficult to answer because I don't know about the contract. As you know that there's SM Japan between SM and Avex. I don't know how they're related and... Kids are curious about it too. They are scheduled to work 12 months a year in Japan or Korea, but because we didn't see...
Q. Then how did you know about 9 to 1 (profit distribution)?
A. Oh, I happened to hear it from the president (of SM).
About the cosmetics, you probably know because I talked about it before. We got the president’s approval on January 7th, a day after we went to the investment presentation on January 6th. We told him, “We’re going to do this.” and he said, “Do it”. After having a party after the Korean concert, he asked if they needed anything, and said he’d fully support them. The kids proceeded (with the business) after hearing that, and then suddenly the two happened to… All 5 had a discussion about the cosmetics and said, “Hey there’s this, should we try this (business)?”
Of course, Junsu will get bashed again for this (laughter). He used (the products) for about a year. He thought it was good, so he got more of them and handed them out to the staffs and to Kodakumi-San (laughing, clapping) as gifts.
After they used it, he asked what the thought about them, and they said they’re pretty good, so he told me “Dad, I’ll do this”, and that was how it was like in the beginning.
So I told him to ask the members who were like his brothers, and I told him if the products are that good, he should do it together after discussing about it instead of earning money just for him.
Then he called me after a few days saying (he) won’t do it (asking members to join the business) any more. So I told him to talk about it again when there’s a chance since 5 is better than 3…
If we knew this was going to happen, we really should’ve gotten everyone involved until the end, or no one should’ve been involved. I asked him several days later after having another discussion, and the two told them to just do it. Simply, They said they’d support (the business), but then not even after 1 year or 2… tsk, I don’t know.
I guess it’s possible for the two to be unhappy from if you look at it in their shoes.
One wrong word could’ve made them feel bad, or maybe they saw the things were going well which made them a bit sad.
So even now, I told the parents to do this together if the kids were unhappy, but they were just using it…
When I thought about it, (Jaejoong’s) sister and everyone must agree, they're subtly using it, and whenever there’s a conversation about cosmetics, they get unhappy. I mean they approved it, but after the business proceeded, they use it to…
I was sad about that. It’s not like we didn’t get an approval. The president allowed it too. If this becomes a problem, the phone record on January 7 will show it.
But absolutely, (Yuchun’s) mother’s here too (who would know about it). When I bring up the problem….
Ah, they always bring it up first. I told them that I didn’t want to hear about it, and I didn’t go there to talk about the business. I said I went to talk about the kid’s problems, but Crebeau is always brought up once we start talking.
Then he (either Yunho or Changmin) said he never said we could do it, he didn’t ok it. He keeps saying that in front of his parents. I was lucky I didn’t faint right there.
(Junsu) called me feeling good in February, and that was when the president said he’d give support. The business didn’t progress much back then.
So do not think that the split is caused by the cosmetics and stuff, and do not misunderstand. It was the members who made choices.. (?)
There are rumors that the kids are getting hungry for money because of the cosmetics, but that’s absolutely not the reason. That’s not the problem and hope you understand.
Even a few days ago, when the kids were going at it hard, it even came down to “Do it! Do it! Do it!” like that.
That’s not the problem.
I cannot answer about inside stories.
First, we’re sorry to really disappoint you…
Do that and understand if you can, and if there’s a chance, we’ll probably (???) a few things again..
Just need to get together again, and explain in detail. If we talk, again..
(Fans asking questions. not audible)
Besides that, we are also, I mean we are...
This is what I think.
We brought you here because we have the truth. I’m sure there are some of you who would understand. Well, doing the same, putting up (posts) is not what I want.
Even if such rumors go around, people who loved ChunJaeSu are…
Anyways the parents..(???)
It’s possible that there are people who write something at personal level because they really don’t like seeing those (rumors), but on the home pages, (we don’t want it) since we don’t know how this is going to turn out. It’s not like we want to have some sort of a protest. (laugh) This situation is really embarrassing to us. Please do not misunderstand. It’s not about 2:3, 4:1 or 3:2. We just didn’t want you to be disappointed when something blows up, and the kids called us early morning because they were worried and asked us to talk to you.
[End of file 4]
Q. Are Changmin and Yunho doing this because they don't want to get out of SM?
A. From the rumors I heard, well, I didn't talk to Changmin, but the way things are going, I think that's what happened.
It’s possible they like SM, so it’s just a difference of opinion. One may like SM, and the other may like to get out. It’s like when you try to keep friendship, other side cries, or when you do something else, that’s not good either.
I’m sure kids are stressed about it. They are uneasy, but we’d like to keep the 5 if possible, but we don’t know what the result is going to be.
(Questions from a fan. Not Audible)
The notice has been sent. We don't have any power, so we consulted the lawyers, and I'm sure they've made a good decision. I mean, there needs to be some improvements, but we kept hearing back hollow echoes for a few months. Notice of content is nothing complicated. It just gives a few demands so they can look at them, and it's asking what they are going to do. It's not going to cause anything big. So we are shutting our mouth as much as possible, and being really careful. You know there are many kids, the teens taking tests (at school).
If the teenage fans find out about this, a crowd of them will go to SM, and we don't know what's going to happen. We were really being careful because of such things, but we heard things like some people meeting at fan sites, some meeting in SM, or coming to someone’s house and such. The 3 kids were extremely nervous too. So you are gathered here today because the 3 asked us to talk to the administrators of Fan sites, and home page.
We feel really sorry, yes.
I think this is probably related to your questions.
The rumors and gossips over the internet are spreading really fast, and it's way faster than what we imagined. But at this point, we cannot wrongly separate (the rumors) and say A is a lie, and B is a truth, but I think at least we need to put up a defense saying some rumors floating around are not true.
Because there are too many people that are (???) and accepting them as truth.
Then, what do you think?
Well then that is …
Then, since each of you guys are administrators of fan sites, don't put up on the home pages because if those are put up on the home pages, it may be, you know, for the administrators, so doing it through personal blogs (laugh) or such routes …
(Fans) That's ours to deal with... anyways (talking)
In this situation, this is what I think we should do. We need to say the 5 needs to get together, need to say things like why we are not taking Yunho and Changmin with us, I think we'll get better response if we say those. If we don't show the truth this way, that will lead to (???) from what you want. Need to worry for Yunho and Changmin so the 5 can continue together, which is true. You know that’s how it is. Yuchun exists because TVXQ is here, so I think that is better.
Do it wisely.
That's possible, yes, yes.
(A fan's question - not audible)
No, the parents are not forcing them in any way, really.
It's been already 8, 10 years for the kids. 7, 10years? It's been that long, so they need to solve it themselves, and we don't want to tell them to stay or to go. They’ll be under the same roof even if they continue on for the next 5, 10 years, and I’d like to set such rule for Junsu. They need to decide and do things on their own, and they need to completely act on their own. It’s not like we can tell them to go to this way, or go to that way or anything like that. They’re already 24 years old, so they have their own thoughts.
Q. So SM never showed contracts and stuff from Avex...
A. Not yet.
We requested a few things to that side, but there wasn't any response. We want to see it too and see how it (contract with Avex) is.
It kind of feels strange now, doesn't it?
(A fan's question)
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The thing that’s really really frustrating is… that’s right, when people say yes, I say no, when people say no, I say yes, so they talk about "Junsu's dad, Junsu's dad, Junsu, Junsu" like that. I am younger than Jaejoon's father, and I didn't want to put (Yuchun's) mother on the spot, and I know and heard about the problems, so I happened to be the one who talked. Junsu is a marked man (by SM) because of that. He's completely marked. The feelings about the condition of the contract are shared among people staying and people who may be leaving. Changmin's dad told me the same thing personally. He said that it's right about those problems. I'm sure there are many things when it the children are involved. When each looked at the situation, there is difference of opinions. The fans just want the 5 to be together for 10 years or 20 years unconditionally. I'm sure we have the same thoughts.
If SM improves the conditions enough for the kids can accept, who would want to leave their home?
Still, it's possible for some to decide to stay with current condition, but there's still 1% of hope even though there is some gap. If the kids hear about the result, they may be together, but don’t jump to the conclusion and think about it yet.
Q. Sir, then there’s a rumor we heard that’s floating around now, that the 3 will sign with another company after getting out (of SM).
A. I mean really.
That's why it's frustrating. Even CJ is brought up. Honestly, it feels good to hear about it. It would be good if the 3 can do something with CJ after getting out, but that's not it.
Me, it says Junsu's dad is doing it, right? (laughter)
It says that I went to CJ, met some people... Really, it doesn't take much to make someone to fall flat on the face. It even said something about Junsu's mother when I saw a post that came up this morning.
I'm telling you, I absolutely, do not know CJ, and why would I go there on my own and do something with CJ and the kids? There's no way to do that.
So don't think about such rumors. I don't even have rights to do that, and there are Yunho's father and Changmin's father who are smart, and I'm not in the position to make a deal with CJ, and then ask others to follow. When you think about it, it’s just a common sense that I'm not in the position to do that.
May be the other side are? I don't know. That side..TVXQ, maybe when they look at the kids, they may have talked among themselves wondering what the value of their kids may be, but it's not like I went to meet an (another company) official and ask how much are they're willing to pay, and tell them I'll take them (kids) out if they pay us a lot. It's not like that. So you’d know that’s how it is.
(?????) It's greatly exaggerated. So it feels good honestly, thanks to you (fans). But it's absolutely not.
You probably have mixed emotions.
For now, I already sent it to the lawyer's office.
The one that’s posted, I already sent it
And we are gathered today…
If I tell you the conclusion first, nothing has been decided yet, so just wish for the 5 to be well...
Right now, the administrators and we have the same thoughts.
Even with the rumors swirling around, the only thing we can do is to get all 5 and to get out just like (Junsu's) father said before.
If the 5 split even with the administrators putting efforts..
We think that far (???)…
For now, supporting all 5 give the most strength to our kids. I think that's the purpose of this meeting. It's still a rumor, and we don't know it well either, so please leave good posts saying the 5 should go on together. It is hurting us that you heard some bad news here, but hopefully the administrators can steer it to better direction...
We are sorry. We made you come all the way here. Hope there won’t be anything bad, but hope you understand. Wish we could’ve had dinner together. ChunJaeSu said dinner (???)
Anyways thank you for your support, and watch your way back home.
Try to be happy. The kids are still trying to do existing activities scheduled already...